[Swift-devel] Mailing lists, documentation update, etc.

Ketan Maheshwari ketan at mcs.anl.gov
Wed Jul 29 09:10:34 CDT 2015


Fireworks too use Google groups. It looks good except that Google has a
history of shutting down their services arbitrarily.

--
Ketan

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Yadu Babuji <yadunand at uchicago.edu> wrote:

>  I couldn't meet with Stephen today. I'll send him mail asking for info
> on what he had to do to make a clean transition.
>
>  -Yadu
>
>
>
>
>  Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S® 6 edge, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Michael Wilde <wilde at anl.gov>
> Date: 07/28/2015 7:24 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: Matthew Shaxted <mattshax at gmail.com>
> Cc: swift-devel at ci.uchicago.edu
> Subject: Re: [Swift-devel] Mailing lists, documentation update, etc.
>
> I see that Julia-Users is doing the same:
>   https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/julia-users
>
> Yadu mentioned that Globus has also moved to Google Groups, and was going
> to ask Stephen how they did the move.
>
> I see that a simple wget -r will copy the mail archives, so we can likely
> preserve a static version of our archives, and then convert to Groups.
>
> It only took a few mins to move the files, and they seem to be in a nicely
> relative format.  I had to manually view source on the swift-user base url
> and save as index.hml, and for some reason the current month (July) is not
> working, but the rest seems to work:
>
>
> http://www.mcs.anl.gov/~wilde/swiftlists/swift-user/lists.ci.uchicago.edu/pipermail/swift-user/
>
> So this might be a reasonable solution.
>
> - Mike
>
> On 7/28/15 6:47 PM, Matthew Shaxted wrote:
>
> Google Groups seems to be a popular forum / list discussion solution.
>
>  An open source mapping platform called Cesium uses it with much success:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/cesium-dev
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Michael Wilde <wilde at anl.gov> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> We need to handle this in the next 2 days to avoid outages on the Swift
>> lists.
>>
>> Has anyone already taken some actions for this, or has there already been
>> a discussion or decision on how to handle this?
>>
>> Whats the most accessible and open-source-friendly way to maintain list
>> discussions?  We might need an interim solution, or we can use this as an
>> opportunity to improve our communication channels and unify Swift K & T
>> communications.
>>
>> Craig's latest reminder on the CI mailing list close-out is at the end of
>> this message.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> - Mike
>>
>>
>> On 6/30/15 1:53 AM, Mihael Hategan wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 23:16 -0500, Michael Wilde wrote:
>>
>>  This may be a good time to make the lists appear to be hosted at swift-lang.org.
>>
>>  An even better idea.
>>
>>
>>  It would also be good to move the list archives to that domain. We
>> should see if that is possible, an dhow forwarding would work.
>>
>>  Yeah, I don't get how this works, but from Ian's quote of what Craig
>> says, the implementation and the interface seem to be different things.
>> So we should probably talk to Craig.
>>
>> Mihael
>>
>>
>>  -------- Forwarded Message --------  Subject: REMINDER:Swift-devel
>> mailing list to be retired July 31, 2015  Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015
>> 09:09:39 -0500  From: Craig Stacey <stace at mcs.anl.gov>
>> <stace at mcs.anl.gov>  Reply-To: support at ci.uchicago.edu  To:
>> Swift-devel-owner at ci.uchicago.edu
>>
>> As previously announced, the CI mailing list server will soon be retired.
>> You're receiving this message as a list owner of a list housed atlists.ci.uchicago.edu. Specifically, the following list:
>> Swift-devel at ci.uchicago.edu, Last post at Sat Jul 25 09:12:44 2015.https://lists.ci.uchicago.edu/mailman/listinfo/Swift-devel
>> (Note the above link also contains a link to any archives of the list as well.)
>>
>> If you do nothing, the list will stop working at end of July. Any archives that
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>> and the sender will receive a notice that the address is no longer valid.
>>
>> If you want to retain and move the list, your best option is to create a new
>> list on the service of your choice (for example, ITS provides mailing lists athttps://itservices.uchicago.edu/services/mailing-lists).  We don't have a way
>> to automate this process of moving from one service to another, unfortunately.
>> However, if you'd like a raw text dump of your existing configuration and
>> membership, we can provide that, simply let us know.  Otherwise, the web UI to
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>> Once you've got your new list configured and ready, if you'd like we can point
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>> can simply switch to using the new address, whatever that may be.
>>
>> If you want the archives of your old CI list, let us know.  We can provide the
>> raw archives (including static HTML files) for you to use as you wish.  We do
>> not have a method of transferring the archives to whatever list provider you
>> choose to use for your new list, however.
>>
>> Thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience.
>>
>>
>>  --
>> Michael Wilde
>> Mathematics and Computer Science          Computation Institute
>> Argonne National Laboratory               The University of Chicago
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> Michael Wilde
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> Argonne National Laboratory               The University of Chicago
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