[Swift-devel] Mailing lists, documentation update, etc.

Tue Jul 28 19:35:31 CDT 2015

I couldn't meet with Stephen today. I'll send him mail asking for info on what he had to do to make a clean transition.

-Yadu

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-------- Original message --------
From: Michael Wilde <wilde at anl.gov>
Date: 07/28/2015 7:24 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Matthew Shaxted <mattshax at gmail.com>
Cc: swift-devel at ci.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: [Swift-devel] Mailing lists, documentation update, etc.

I see that Julia-Users is doing the same:
  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/julia-users

Yadu mentioned that Globus has also moved to Google Groups, and was going to ask Stephen how they did the move.

I see that a simple wget -r will copy the mail archives, so we can likely preserve a static version of our archives, and then convert to Groups.

It only took a few mins to move the files, and they seem to be in a nicely relative format.  I had to manually view source on the swift-user base url and save as index.hml, and for some reason the current month (July) is not working, but the rest seems to work:

http://www.mcs.anl.gov/~wilde/swiftlists/swift-user/lists.ci.uchicago.edu/pipermail/swift-user/

So this might be a reasonable solution.

- Mike

On 7/28/15 6:47 PM, Matthew Shaxted wrote:
Google Groups seems to be a popular forum / list discussion solution.

An open source mapping platform called Cesium uses it with much success:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/cesium-dev<https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/cesium-dev>

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Michael Wilde <wilde at anl.gov<mailto:wilde at anl.gov>> wrote:
Dear All,

We need to handle this in the next 2 days to avoid outages on the Swift lists.

Has anyone already taken some actions for this, or has there already been a discussion or decision on how to handle this?

Whats the most accessible and open-source-friendly way to maintain list discussions?  We might need an interim solution, or we can use this as an opportunity to improve our communication channels and unify Swift K & T communications.

Craig's latest reminder on the CI mailing list close-out is at the end of this message.

Thanks,

- Mike

On 6/30/15 1:53 AM, Mihael Hategan wrote:

On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 23:16 -0500, Michael Wilde wrote:

This may be a good time to make the lists appear to be hosted at
swift-lang.org<http://swift-lang.org>.

An even better idea.

It would also be good to move the list archives to that domain. We
should see if that is possible, an dhow forwarding would work.

Yeah, I don't get how this works, but from Ian's quote of what Craig
says, the implementation and the interface seem to be different things.
So we should probably talk to Craig.

Mihael

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Date:   Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:09:39 -0500
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As previously announced, the CI mailing list server will soon be retired.
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