<div dir="ltr">Fireworks too use Google groups. It looks good except that Google has a history of shutting down their services arbitrarily.<div><br></div><div>--</div><div>Ketan</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Yadu Babuji <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yadunand@uchicago.edu" target="_blank">yadunand@uchicago.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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From: Michael Wilde <<a href="mailto:wilde@anl.gov" target="_blank">wilde@anl.gov</a>> <br>
Date: 07/28/2015 7:24 PM (GMT-06:00) <br>
To: Matthew Shaxted <<a href="mailto:mattshax@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattshax@gmail.com</a>> <br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu" target="_blank">swift-devel@ci.uchicago.edu</a> <br>
Subject: Re: [Swift-devel] Mailing lists, documentation update, etc. <br>
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<div>I see that Julia-Users is doing the same:<br>
<a href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/julia-users" target="_blank">
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/julia-users</a><br>
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Yadu mentioned that Globus has also moved to Google Groups, and was going to ask Stephen how they did the move.<br>
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I see that a simple wget -r will copy the mail archives, so we can likely preserve a static version of our archives, and then convert to Groups.<br>
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It only took a few mins to move the files, and they seem to be in a nicely relative format. I had to manually view source on the swift-user base url and save as index.hml, and for some reason the current month (July) is not working, but the rest seems to work:<br>
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<a href="http://www.mcs.anl.gov/~wilde/swiftlists/swift-user/lists.ci.uchicago.edu/pipermail/swift-user/" target="_blank">http://www.mcs.anl.gov/~wilde/swiftlists/swift-user/lists.ci.uchicago.edu/pipermail/swift-user/</a><br>
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So this might be a reasonable solution.<br>
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<div>An open source mapping platform called Cesium uses it with much success:
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Michael Wilde <span dir="ltr">
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We need to handle this in the next 2 days to avoid outages on the Swift lists.<br>
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Has anyone already taken some actions for this, or has there already been a discussion or decision on how to handle this?<br>
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Whats the most accessible and open-source-friendly way to maintain list discussions? We might need an interim solution, or we can use this as an opportunity to improve our communication channels and unify Swift K & T communications.<br>
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Craig's latest reminder on the CI mailing list close-out is at the end of this message.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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<div>On 6/30/15 1:53 AM, Mihael Hategan wrote:<br>
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<pre><span>This may be a good time to make the lists appear to be hosted at
</span><a href="http://swift-lang.org" target="_blank">swift-lang.org</a>.
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<pre>Yeah, I don't get how this works, but from Ian's quote of what Craig
says, the implementation and the interface seem to be different things.
So we should probably talk to Craig.
Mihael
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