[Swift-devel] Mailing lists, documentation update, etc.

[Michael Wilde]

I see that Julia-Users is doing the same:
   https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/julia-users

Yadu mentioned that Globus has also moved to Google Groups, and was 
going to ask Stephen how they did the move.

I see that a simple wget -r will copy the mail archives, so we can 
likely preserve a static version of our archives, and then convert to 
Groups.

It only took a few mins to move the files, and they seem to be in a 
nicely relative format.  I had to manually view source on the swift-user 
base url and save as index.hml, and for some reason the current month 
(July) is not working, but the rest seems to work:

http://www.mcs.anl.gov/~wilde/swiftlists/swift-user/lists.ci.uchicago.edu/pipermail/swift-user/

So this might be a reasonable solution.

- Mike

On 7/28/15 6:47 PM, Matthew Shaxted wrote:
> Google Groups seems to be a popular forum / list discussion solution.
>
> An open source mapping platform called Cesium uses it with much success:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/cesium-dev 
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/cesium-dev>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Michael Wilde <wilde at anl.gov 
> <mailto:wilde at anl.gov>> wrote:
>
>     Dear All,
>
>     We need to handle this in the next 2 days to avoid outages on the
>     Swift lists.
>
>     Has anyone already taken some actions for this, or has there
>     already been a discussion or decision on how to handle this?
>
>     Whats the most accessible and open-source-friendly way to maintain
>     list discussions?  We might need an interim solution, or we can
>     use this as an opportunity to improve our communication channels
>     and unify Swift K & T communications.
>
>     Craig's latest reminder on the CI mailing list close-out is at the
>     end of this message.
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     - Mike
>
>
>     On 6/30/15 1:53 AM, Mihael Hategan wrote:
>>     On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 23:16 -0500, Michael Wilde wrote:
>>>     This may be a good time to make the lists appear to be hosted at
>>>     swift-lang.org  <http://swift-lang.org>.
>>     An even better idea.
>>
>>>     It would also be good to move the list archives to that domain. We
>>>     should see if that is possible, an dhow forwarding would work.
>>     Yeah, I don't get how this works, but from Ian's quote of what Craig
>>     says, the implementation and the interface seem to be different things.
>>     So we should probably talk to Craig.
>>
>>     Mihael
>>
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-- 
Michael Wilde
Mathematics and Computer Science          Computation Institute
Argonne National Laboratory               The University of Chicago

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