[Swift-devel] Tryswift enhancements

[Michael Wilde]

Indeed - I strongly agree, David.  The basic ticker should be simpler, 
the state-names simpler, and clear precise explanations of their 
meanings should be documented.

I suspect all the states below make sense, but perhaps some could be 
merged into a smaller simpler set, and the full details only exposed 
when requested by a property.

- Mike

On 4/16/14, 3:10 PM, David Kelly wrote:
> Maybe we should take a look at these and see if we should change them 
> in Swift as well? If the ticker naming is not clear in tryswift, it 
> may not clear from the command line either. Here is the list of ticker 
> values I see:
>
> Initializing
> Selecting site
> Stage in
> Submitting
> Submitted
> Active
> Stage out
> Failed
> Replicating
> Finished in previous run
> Finished successfully
>
> I don't think most people are interested in many of these, or 
> understand what they mean. I'd be in favor of a cleaner ticker, 
> perhaps with just timestamp, "pending", "active", and "completed" 
> nicely formatted and aligned.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Michael Wilde <wilde at anl.gov 
> <mailto:wilde at anl.gov>> wrote:
>
>     For the progress output:
>
>     Swift trunk swift-r7139 cog-r3806
>     RunID: 20140416-1029-alqxvvi1
>     Progress:  time: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:29:54 -0500
>     Progress:  time: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:29:55 -0500  Selecting site:7  Active:3
>     Progress:  time: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:29:56 -0500  Selecting site:7  Active:3  Finished successfully:3
>     Progress:  time: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:29:57 -0500  Selecting site:7  Active:3  Finished successfully:6
>     Progress:  time: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:29:58 -0500  Selecting site:7  Active:3  Finished successfully:9
>
>     - start with Swift run starting at 10:23:03
>     - suppress Swift version # and RunID lines
>     - change: Progress:  time: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:29:58 -0500  Selecting site:7  Active:3  Finished successfully:9
>        to:  10:29:58   Ready:7   Active:3  Done:9  [Failed: 3] (show failures only if non-zero)
>
>     Use spaces to make these line up "nicely"
>
>     - add a line saying Swift run completed at 10:24:59
>
>     Mike
>       
>
>     On 4/15/14, 11:32 PM, Michael Wilde wrote:
>>     David, just to clarify: by the [Explain] notation below I just
>>     meant to make "Explain" a "button".
>>
>>     - Mike
>>
>>     On 4/15/14, 3:56 PM, Michael Wilde wrote:
>>>     [Moving discussion to swift-devel]
>>>
>>>     On 4/15/14, 12:06 PM, David Kelly wrote:
>>>>     Hi Mike,
>>>>
>>>>     One idea I had for tryswift was to change the way that file
>>>>     outputs are displayed. Keeping them in a drop down list saves
>>>>     some space and I think makes it look a little cleaner. To see
>>>>     what I mean, check out http://swiftvm4.ci.uchicago.edu and try
>>>>     the foreach example (still working on some CSS changes there as
>>>>     well).
>>>>
>>>>     Right now it only handles html/text, but if the file output was
>>>>     images or videos, they could be loaded in the same window. Just
>>>>     wanted to get your initial thoughts before I did too much with it.
>>>     Hi David,
>>>
>>>     I think this is heading in a nice direction. It looks very nice
>>>     and clean.
>>>
>>>     Some thoughts:
>>>
>>>     Top window:
>>>     - Add text in front of menu:   Example: [example-menu] [Explain]
>>>     - [Explain] button should pop out in a new window, sized and
>>>     placed "nicely" (not quite sure what nicely involves yet ;)
>>>
>>>     Bottom window
>>>     - its hard to tell when the script completes or how many files
>>>     it produced
>>>     - when you view a file it overwrites the progress window
>>>     - (reset is broken, btw)
>>>
>>>     How about:
>>>     - dont show the output-files menu while the script is running
>>>     - when script completes, show the menu with a label [N files
>>>     produced:] [output-files-menu]
>>>     - when you select a file, show it in a new popup window "placed
>>>     nicely" with a [close] button top and bottom
>>>     - allowing that window to be multi-media sounds nice
>>>
>>>     Bigger project:
>>>     - for status, show running tally of the status to the right of
>>>     the control buttons
>>>     - add button [Progress log] that shows the progress to date or
>>>     after the fact, as a pop-up. With cleaner timestamp etc. WHich
>>>     we should make the default for all Swift runs.
>>>
>>>     So with this improved progress menu, you'd have a very clean
>>>     look with the Swift text taking most of the window, bracketd by
>>>     a script-selector stripe at the top and an execution control
>>>     strip at the bottom.
>>>
>>>     How do these sound to you?
>>>
>>>     - Mike
>>>
>>
>
>     -- 
>     Michael Wilde
>     Mathematics and Computer Science          Computation Institute
>     Argonne National Laboratory               The University of Chicago
>
>

-- 
Michael Wilde
Mathematics and Computer Science          Computation Institute
Argonne National Laboratory               The University of Chicago

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