[Swift-devel] maling lists

Mihael Hategan hategan at mcs.anl.gov
Thu Jun 5 13:59:34 CDT 2008


On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 13:48 -0500, Ioan Raicu wrote:
> Incubator guidelines are probably easier to satisfy than once you are 
> ready to escalate, which should be most incubator's end goal.

Ah, you trigger an important issue. Have the full project infrastructure
requirements been copied from the incubator requirements and not
updated, or is it that the "existing infrastructure" leniencies are
meant to only be transitional. 

I guess that's another mail to Jen! 

> 
> Mihael Hategan wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 13:39 -0500, Ioan Raicu wrote:
> >   
> >> This will be enough for being allowed back as an incubator, but it
> >> will never suffice for escalating the project to being a full fledged
> >> Globus component.  They look at the mailing lists activity at review
> >> time, and will judge the community size based on the number of people
> >> that post questions and answers.  So, your solution to ignore as much
> >> as possible the globus mailing list is only a short term solution.
> >>     
> >
> > It would seem silly to allow projects to have primary lists other than
> > the ones at @globus.org, yet require that all meaningful activity
> > happens on the ones @globus.org. "Primary" implies "where all meaningful
> > stuff happens".
> >
> >   
> >> Ioan 
> >>
> >> Mihael Hategan wrote: 
> >>     
> >>> On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 17:30 +0000, Ben Clifford wrote:
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>>> - subscribe all committers to the other @globus mailing lists. We'll
> >>>>> encourage users to use the @ci mailing lists, and discussions initiated
> >>>>> on @globus should be manually moved to @ci.
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>> I think this is fairly ridiculous.
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> That I can't deny.
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> We should not have multiple mailing lists for the same purpose. If we have 
> >>>> globus lists, the CI lists should be shut down and the community and 
> >>>> archives there abandoned or compelled to move.
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> We wouldn't really use the @globus.org mailing lists. We fulfill our
> >>> requirement (given that we have no choice), and we also make it so that
> >>> we don't really fulfill the requirement. In other words we have the
> >>> lists, we do what we're asked, but we tell everybody to use the other
> >>> ones. And for the few cases when people ask questions on the @globus.org
> >>> lists, we move the discussion.
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>
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> >>>   
> >>>       
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> >> Ioan Raicu
> >> Ph.D. Candidate
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