[Swift-devel] excessive rate throttling for apparently temporally-restricted failures

Mihael Hategan hategan at mcs.anl.gov
Sun Oct 28 11:15:46 CDT 2007


On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 10:25 -0500, Ioan Raicu wrote:
> Assuming you have a single site to submit to, then I don't see why you
> don't want to disable the site scoring altogether?

Because having too many jobs on that one site may still cause problems.

That said, the algorithm currently there needs some work.

>   Of course you still want throttling, but that is more on the level
> of X outstanding jobs at any given time (and possibly Y jobs/sec
> submit rate), so you don't overrun the LRM, but you would not want to
> lower X to some low value just because some jobs are failing.  Again,
> once you go to multi-site runs, you need the site scoring to decide
> among the different sites, but with a single site, I see no drawbacks
> to disabling the site scoring mechanism.  
> 
> Ioan
> 
> Ben Clifford wrote: 
> > On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, Ioan Raicu wrote:
> > 
> >   
> > > they were due to the stale NFS handle error.  I think Mihael outlined in an
> > > email a while back how to disable the task submission throttling due to a bad
> > > score, assuming that you have a single site to submit to anyways. 
> > >     
> > 
> > I know how to disable it. I don't particularly want it running rate free.
> > 
> > Whats happening here is that the feedback loop feeding back too much / too 
> > fast for the situation I experience.
> > 
> > There's plenty of fun to be had experimenting there; and I suspect there 
> > will be no One True Rate Controller.
> > 
> >   
> 
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