[Swift-devel] CPU usage with provider-deef

[Mihael Hategan]

On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 16:37 -0500, Ioan Raicu wrote:
> There is a diagram in the SC paper that has the flow of messages, and
> what each does; these messages also map to the WSDL of the Falkon
> service.  Mihael, Ben, or whoever else wants to start digging through
> the Falkon code, maybe a meeting might be good to go over the
> organization of the code, the message flow diagram, configuration
> options, etc...  I would prefer a meeting over drafting up more
> documents, I think it would be more time effective for me for now.

It might be the reverse for us. It's unlikely that faced with a lot of
new information, we will consistently retain all of it. Something of
reference might be handy.

> 
> Ioan
> 
> Ben Clifford wrote: 
> > The WSDL should describe part of the web services bit of the protocol. 
> > That might be a good place to start. The WSDL should already describe the 
> > messages that go over the wire in something vaguely readable to a human. 
> > Probably what would be needed would be the extra info to say which order 
> > messages are sent.
> > 
> > On Sat, 16 Jun 2007, Mike Wilde wrote:
> > 
> >   
> > > I think a nice clean message sequence chart describing Falkon's various
> > > activities would be very useful, as its the backbone of its logic.
> > > 
> > > I tried to create this for the SC paper by asking Ioan to describe the
> > > protocol to me, but I dod not succeed.
> > > 
> > > I think this would be a very useful description to maintain, as a UML sequence
> > > chart, and that Ioan this would be a very important part of your thesis or of
> > > future papers.
> > > 
> > > Its up to you and Ian to weigh whether this would be valuable to your
> > > research.  I think its invaluable for design, review and debugging.
> > > 
> > > - Mike
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Mihael Hategan wrote, On 6/16/2007 3:15 PM:
> > >     
> > > > On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 19:52 +0000, Ian Foster wrote:
> > > >       
> > > > > I wasn't suggesting (at least in the first instance) that Mihael take the
> > > > > prototype and turn it into production, but that Mihael and Ioan sit down
> > > > > together and do a code walkthrough. I think that this would likely
> > > > > identify bugs and opportunities for simplification.
> > > > >         
> > > > It's somewhat on the same in level of fun :). From the experience I've
> > > > accumulated so far, design is hard. Understanding prototype design is
> > > > probably even harder (not only do you need to understand the problem,
> > > > you also need to understand why many non-obvious things are done the way
> > > > they are done).
> > > > 
> > > > Mihael
> > > > 
> > > >       
> > > > > Ian
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Ben Clifford <benc at hawaga.org.uk>
> > > > > 
> > > > > Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 19:36:17 To:Mihael Hategan <hategan at mcs.anl.gov>
> > > > > Cc:swift-devel at ci.uchicago.edu
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Swift-devel] CPU usage with provider-deef
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Sat, 16 Jun 2007, Mihael Hategan wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > >         
> > > > > > On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 12:03 -0500, Mike Wilde wrote:
> > > > > >           
> > > > > > > This should be fun, and a nice break from the I2U2 work that you've
> > > > > > > been immersed in, Mihael.
> > > > > > >             
> > > > > > I have my reservations towards the amount of fun it involves.
> > > > > >           
> > > > > Right, taking prototypes and turning them into production isn't
> > > > > necessarily fun - in fact, a lot of the fun already happened with the
> > > > > making of the prototype and the rest is some what drugery. (to an extent
> > > > > that's the same situation i2u2 cosmic was/is in).
> > > > > 
> > > > >         
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