[Swift-devel] CPU usage with provider-deef

Mihael Hategan hategan at mcs.anl.gov
Sat Jun 16 15:05:46 CDT 2007


On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 14:47 -0500, Ioan Raicu wrote:
> Yes, I know I need to clean up the code, and remove unused (dead)
> code.  Can this wait for the next version I am working on, so I don't
> do this clean-up twice?  The version that is out there in testing
> currently is v0.8.  My development version is v0.9.  I have been
> distracted lately from finishing up v0.9, but its not far from being
> complete.  Mihael, when do you get back in town?

I should be in Chicago on 23rd.

Mihael

> 
> If this is something more urgent, then perhaps I can get you a
> clean-up version of v0.8 in the coming week.
> 
> Ioan
> 
> Mihael Hategan wrote: 
> > On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 12:03 -0500, Mike Wilde wrote:
> >   
> > > This should be fun, and a nice break from the I2U2 work that you've 
> > > been immersed in, Mihael.
> > >     
> > 
> > I've already looked at the Falkon code and it's... a lot of code that
> > does stuff that I understand only in principle. What you want isn't
> > easy, and I have my reservations towards the amount of fun it involves.
> > 
> > That being said, Ioan, would it be possible to have a cleaned up version
> > of the code where there are no duplicate classes? It's hard for me to
> > figure what's relevant or not in that case. And perhaps dead
> > code/comments removed?
> > 
> > Mihael
> > 
> >   
> > > Want to do a read-through soon, and send out comments for discussion 
> > > that can turn into a list of code improvements to bugzilize?
> > > 
> > > What I think is important about Falkon is that its working, its 
> > > proving out the value of the provisioned direct-scheduling approach 
> > > with numbers, and that its working for Ioan as a vehicle for his 
> > > research.
> > > 
> > > What we want to get from the effort is a) Ioan progresses towards 
> > > his PhD; b) the immediate needs of our app-users get met; and c) we 
> > > learn whats needed in architecture, protocol and algorithm for a 
> > > successful long-term approach to running swift programs efficiently.
> > > 
> > > Point is that everyone is open to changes and towards an eventual 
> > > re-design and re-write. This, Mihael, would be where you can 
> > > propose, design and implement the ideas you've expressed about 
> > > implementing provisioned direct-scheduling using Karajan's remote 
> > > execution mechanisms.
> > > 
> > > - Mike
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ian Foster wrote, On 6/16/2007 10:59 AM:
> > >     
> > > > It seems important that Ioan sit down with Mihael and work through the 
> > > > Falkon code to see where it can be simplified, improved, etc. I am sure 
> > > > that this will result in problems being identified and fixed that will 
> > > > otherwise cost us time later.
> > > > 
> > > > Mihael Hategan wrote:
> > > >       
> > > > > Yourkit (www.yourkit.com) has free licenses for open source projects for
> > > > > their profiler. Point them to a globus web page that has your name, and
> > > > > they'll send you the license. Alternatively, there are other profilers
> > > > > out there, and I strongly recommend using them on such issues.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Mihael
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 10:00 -0500, Ioan Raicu wrote:
> > > > >   
> > > > >         
> > > > > > Nope, I think this is a different problem, or at least a subset of the
> > > > > > problems we were having before.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Since we fixed the CPU utilization, and we moved to a bigger box (4
> > > > > > CPUs with 2GB of memory), everything is happening in a timely fashion
> > > > > > (a few ms per notification delivery throughout the experiment).  Plus,
> > > > > > I believe the view is consistent (the same tasks look complete on both
> > > > > > ends) between Falkon and Swift, but we are still checking on this as
> > > > > > the run was made just last night for the 100 mol run.  We'll keep you
> > > > > > posted with what we find.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ioan
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ben Clifford wrote: 
> > > > > >     
> > > > > >           
> > > > > > > On Sat, 16 Jun 2007, Ioan Raicu wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   
> > > > > > >       
> > > > > > >             
> > > > > > > > having problems with the 100 molecule run in MolDyn.  Its not clear where the
> > > > > > > > problem is, on the surface Falkon looks fine... we are looking into where
> > > > > > > > everything breaks to cause Swift to not continue with the workflow to
> > > > > > > > completion!
> > > > > > > >     
> > > > > > > >         
> > > > > > > >               
> > > > > > > The same problem that you showed me the other day or different?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > with 'the same problem' being that falkon thinks all the jobs are done; 
> > > > > > > but that falkon's measure response time for sending completion 
> > > > > > > notifications gets approximately linearly longer over time and the swift 
> > > > > > > JVM uses ~100% and doesn't inidicate job completion at all after a certain 
> > > > > > > period.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > or different symptoms now?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   
> > > > > > >       
> > > > > > >             
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