[petsc-dev] [Mike McQuaid] Re: [Homebrew/homebrew-core] PETSc: import from homebrew-science (#23598)

[Lisandro Dalcin]

On 23 February 2018 at 23:31, Matthew Knepley <knepley at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:19 PM, Jed Brown <jed at jedbrown.org> wrote:
>
>> What, if anything, really needs to be installed to $prefix/bin?
>>
>> From the Homebrew lead maintainer.
>>
>
> The maintainer of Homebrew calling anything a mess is pretty rich.
>
>
Look at my approach to fix the mess:

https://github.com/conda-forge/petsc-feedstock/blob/master/recipe/build.sh#L53



>    Matt
>
>
>>
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>> From: Mike McQuaid <notifications at github.com>
>> To: "Homebrew/homebrew-core" <homebrew-core at noreply.github.com>
>> Cc: Jed Brown <jed at jedbrown.org>, Mention <mention at noreply.github.com>
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>> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 19:59:53 +0000 (UTC)
>> Subject: Re: [Homebrew/homebrew-core] PETSc: import from homebrew-science
>> (#23598)
>>
>> doesn't this attitude complete defeat the purpose of a package manager?
>>
>> You're asking of the hardest working package manager maintainers in the
>> world (@ilovezfs <https://github.com/ilovezfs>). Chances he has a better
>> idea about the purpose of a package manager than you do.
>>
>> I cannot understand not wanting a package because it is complicated to
>> install.
>>
>> This is perhaps because you do not maintain a package manager.
>>
>> What you're suggesting is that any software using PETSc should either
>> force users to compile it from scratch or discontinue supporting macOS
>> entirely.
>>
>> No, what's being suggested is that PETSc's currently upstream
>> installation is a mess and we don't want to maintain the hacks required to
>> make it not one indefinitely. You can copy and paste this formula as-is
>> into a tap and it'll work for you just fine.
>>
>> That seems like the wrong approach for a package manager.
>>
>> In the package manager you maintain you should take a different approach,
>> then.
>>
>> Just my opinion...
>>
>> If you have to end your statement like that: it's probably worth keeping
>> quiet in future, please.
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> To be clear, I'm not being harsh here because I like doing so but because
>> this entitled, know-it-all attitude literally kills open source projects
>> and @ilovezfs <https://github.com/ilovezfs>'s motivation is more
>> important to me than allowing that to go unchallenged.
>>
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