[petsc-dev] [Mike McQuaid] Re: [Homebrew/homebrew-core] PETSc: import from homebrew-science (#23598)

Matthew Knepley knepley at gmail.com
Fri Feb 23 14:31:44 CST 2018

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:19 PM, Jed Brown <jed at jedbrown.org> wrote:

> What, if anything, really needs to be installed to $prefix/bin?
> From the Homebrew lead maintainer.

The maintainer of Homebrew calling anything a mess is pretty rich.


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> From: Mike McQuaid <notifications at github.com>
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> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 19:59:53 +0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Re: [Homebrew/homebrew-core] PETSc: import from homebrew-science
> (#23598)
> doesn't this attitude complete defeat the purpose of a package manager?
> You're asking of the hardest working package manager maintainers in the
> world (@ilovezfs <https://github.com/ilovezfs>). Chances he has a better
> idea about the purpose of a package manager than you do.
> I cannot understand not wanting a package because it is complicated to
> install.
> This is perhaps because you do not maintain a package manager.
> What you're suggesting is that any software using PETSc should either
> force users to compile it from scratch or discontinue supporting macOS
> entirely.
> No, what's being suggested is that PETSc's currently upstream installation
> is a mess and we don't want to maintain the hacks required to make it not
> one indefinitely. You can copy and paste this formula as-is into a tap and
> it'll work for you just fine.
> That seems like the wrong approach for a package manager.
> In the package manager you maintain you should take a different approach,
> then.
> Just my opinion...
> If you have to end your statement like that: it's probably worth keeping
> quiet in future, please.
> ------------------------------
> To be clear, I'm not being harsh here because I like doing so but because
> this entitled, know-it-all attitude literally kills open source projects
> and @ilovezfs <https://github.com/ilovezfs>'s motivation is more
> important to me than allowing that to go unchallenged.
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