<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 February 2018 at 23:31, Matthew Knepley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:knepley@gmail.com" target="_blank">knepley@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="gmail-">On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:19 PM, Jed Brown <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jed@jedbrown.org" target="_blank">jed@jedbrown.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">What, if anything, really needs to be installed to $prefix/bin?<br>
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>From the Homebrew lead maintainer.<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>The maintainer of Homebrew calling anything a mess is pretty rich.</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Look at my approach to fix the mess:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/conda-forge/petsc-feedstock/blob/master/recipe/build.sh#L53">https://github.com/conda-forge/petsc-feedstock/blob/master/recipe/build.sh#L53</a><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div><div> Matt</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Mike McQuaid <<a href="mailto:notifications@github.com" target="_blank">notifications@github.com</a>><br>To: "Homebrew/homebrew-core" <<a href="mailto:homebrew-core@noreply.github.com" target="_blank">homebrew-core@noreply.github.<wbr>com</a>><br>Cc: Jed Brown <<a href="mailto:jed@jedbrown.org" target="_blank">jed@jedbrown.org</a>>, Mention <<a href="mailto:mention@noreply.github.com" target="_blank">mention@noreply.github.com</a>><br>Bcc: <br>Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 19:59:53 +0000 (UTC)<br>Subject: Re: [Homebrew/homebrew-core] PETSc: import from homebrew-science (#23598)<br><blockquote>
<p>doesn't this attitude complete defeat the purpose of a package manager?</p>
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<p>You're asking of the hardest working package manager maintainers in the world (<a href="https://github.com/ilovezfs" class="gmail-m_115078250408426098m_5798363770333920497user-mention" target="_blank">@ilovezfs</a>). Chances he has a better idea about the purpose of a package manager than you do.</p>
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<p>I cannot understand not wanting a package because it is complicated to install.</p>
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<p>This is perhaps because you do not maintain a package manager.</p>
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<p>What you're suggesting is that any software using PETSc should either force users to compile it from scratch or discontinue supporting macOS entirely.</p>
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<p>No, what's being suggested is that PETSc's currently upstream installation is a mess and we don't want to maintain the hacks required to make it not one indefinitely. You can copy and paste this formula as-is into a tap and it'll work for you just fine.</p>
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<p>That seems like the wrong approach for a package manager.</p>
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<p>In the package manager you maintain you should take a different approach, then.</p>
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<p>Just my opinion...</p>
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<p>If you have to end your statement like that: it's probably worth keeping quiet in future, please.</p>
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<p>To be clear, I'm not being harsh here because I like doing so but because this entitled, know-it-all attitude literally kills open source projects and <a href="https://github.com/ilovezfs" class="gmail-m_115078250408426098m_5798363770333920497user-mention" target="_blank">@ilovezfs</a>'s motivation is more important to me than allowing that to go unchallenged.</p>
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