[petsc-dev] Pushing non-working code

[Matthew Knepley]

On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Karl Rupp <rupp at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:

> On 02/03/2013 11:25 AM, Sean Farley wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Matthew Knepley <knepley at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Jed Brown <jedbrown at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Matthew Knepley <knepley at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you quantify your productivity gains that come from pushing
>>>>>> checkpoints instead of waiting for a semantically meaningful point to
>>>>>> merge
>>>>>> and push?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can quantify the losses from the changed you propose, which is all I
>>>>> need to do.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do share.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Its more work for me. Clearly you are asking me to do something I do not
>>> currently do. A loss.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> There are no "gains" from a baseline. This is
>>>>> a point I have made multiple times. Changes must be justified.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I provided a long list of justifications that you have not responded to.
>>>> There is a great deal of empirical evidence to back my claims.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have responded to each and every point carefully. You need to listen.
>>>
>>
>> I have been following this conversation closely but have not seen you
>> respond to any of the points on code review, new bugs, etc. I have
>> seen you complain that you don't want to change your habits, though.
>>
>
> +1 for Sean. I'm tired of carefully writing down the points I'm trying to
> make, carefully (re-)reading through what I've written, and then just to
> get a generic 'how does this relate to XYZ'-type of answer without really
> addressing anything I've raised.
>

I find it tiring to continually make points that someone does not want to
hear, and thus dismissed without recognizing
that a point was made.

   Matt


> Best regards,
> Karli
>
>


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What most experimenters take for granted before they begin their
experiments is infinitely more interesting than any results to which their
experiments lead.
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