[AG-TECH] Possible enhancement for Toolkit
Victor M. Babson, Jr.
vbabson at secsg.uga.edu
Fri Sep 10 15:18:36 CDT 2004
Just some tidbits of information that I thought should be thrown in...
The life-cycle of Windows 2000 is coming to an end in less than a year
(March of next year)
Windows XP is about a year and a half beyond that Dec. `06.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx
Now the above link shows "license availability roadmap", but mainstream
support for is due to stop on June `05 for 2000 and Dec `06 for XP.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];LifeWin
--Vic
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Groves" <randy.groves at boeing.com>
To: <ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov>
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 3:53 PM
Subject: RE: [AG-TECH] Possible enhancement for Toolkit
> I totally understand about the Win2K support issue. But I don't think
that
> I'm the only one in the position of wanting to proselytize in an
> environment where XP is just now becoming an 'officially supported'
> OS. Unfortunately, AG is not yet a 'driver' package ;-) - you can't
> justify putting XP on a box just because you want to run AG.
>
> I see Win2K essentially in a similar position with the many Linux
> distributions. Hopefully, until such time as something comes along that
> totally breaks AG on Win2K, I'm hoping that there will be some accumulated
> wisdom available that will condense the needed tweaks. I'm willing to
> contribute any findings that I have to that wisdom, but I'm not in a
> position to coordinate that effort.
>
> -randy
>
> At 07:57 PM 9/9/2004, Ivan R. Judson wrote:
>
> >One other thing to mention; the reason we don't support win2k is that we
> >don't run win2k anywhere. We're writing the toolkit in a way that we hope
> >ensures no backward problems, but we are also leveraging the nice new
> >features of the latest OS's.
> >
> >At some point it's likely we'll introduce a feature or bug that will
disable
> >the "accidental" backward compatibility that exists for platforms like
win2k
> >(this already happens on linux where old os's, ahem, RH7.X don't have
python
> >2.3.3+).
> >
> >We're more than happy for someone else to tinker with this and see if
> >there's a reasonable solution, but we're not going to start adding
support
> >for legacy OS's; not unless someone wants to start paying us to do
that --
> >we've got enough interesting research moving forward.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >--Ivan
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
> > > [mailto:owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Ivan R. Judson
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 9:01 PM
> > > To: 'Randy Groves'; ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
> > > Subject: RE: [AG-TECH] Possible enhancement for Toolkit
> > >
> > >
> > > The toolkit is already handling the case where the machine
> > > has multiple network adapters; indeed almost all laptops have
> > > both wireless and wired connections, mine which I use for
> > > development has the following:
> > >
> > > NetWork Card(s): 3 NIC(s) Installed.
> > > [01]: Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network
> > > Connection
> > > Connection Name: Fast Ethernet
> > > Status: Media disconnected
> > > [02]: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2100
> > > LAN 3B Mini PCI Adapter
> > > Connection Name: Wireless
> > > Network Connection
> > > DHCP Enabled: Yes
> > > DHCP Server: 10.0.1.65
> > > IP address(es)
> > > [01]: 10.0.1.17
> > > [03]: Cisco Systems VPN Adapter
> > > Connection Name: MCS VPN
> > > DHCP Enabled: No
> > > IP address(es)
> > > [01]: 140.221.18.114
> > >
> > > Plus, add the vmware interfaces, MS's fancy ipv4/ipv6
> > > tunnels, teredo, et al and you'll find that on XP the toolkit
> > > is doing quite a good job of working in the face of *many*
> > > network interfaces ;)
> > >
> > > Here's my development desktop net interfaces:
> > >
> > > NetWork Card(s): 4 NIC(s) Installed.
> > > [01]: 3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast
> > > Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible)
> > > Connection Name: Wired
> > > DHCP Enabled: Yes
> > > DHCP Server: 140.221.11.6
> > > IP address(es)
> > > [01]: 140.221.34.71
> > > [02]: VMware Virtual Ethernet
> > > Adapter for VMnet1
> > > Connection Name: VMware
> > > Network Adapter
> > > VMnet1
> > > [03]: VMware Virtual Ethernet
> > > Adapter for VMnet8
> > > Connection Name: VMware
> > > Network Adapter
> > > VMnet8
> > > [04]: 1394 Net Adapter
> > > Connection Name: 1394 Connection 2
> > > DHCP Enabled: Yes
> > > DHCP Server: N/A
> > > IP address(es)
> > >
> > > What kind of a feature are you looking for? What's the use
> > > case you're experiencing? What problem are you trying to solve?
> > >
> > > --Ivan
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
> > > > [mailto:owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Randy Groves
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:38 PM
> > > > To: ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
> > > > Subject: [AG-TECH] Possible enhancement for Toolkit
> > > >
> > > > My recent experience with the 'Microsoft TV/Video' network
> > > connection
> > > > brings to mind an enhancement. It would be nice if, during the
> > > > install (and maybe accessible later via a python script), if the
> > > > Toolkit finds more than one network adaptor installed on
> > > the machine,
> > > > it would ask the installer which one it should use. This
> > > would have
> > > > made it obvious in my case, but also would handle the case
> > > where there
> > > > REALLY is more than one network adaptor in a machine. I know that
> > > > I've also seen a 1394 network adaptor installed on various machines
> > > > with FireWire adaptors.
> > > >
> > > > I will enter this in Bugzilla if it sounds like a good idea.
> > > >
> > > > -randy
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
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