[AG-TECH] Possible enhancement for Toolkit
Ivan R. Judson
judson at mcs.anl.gov
Thu Sep 9 21:57:37 CDT 2004
One other thing to mention; the reason we don't support win2k is that we
don't run win2k anywhere. We're writing the toolkit in a way that we hope
ensures no backward problems, but we are also leveraging the nice new
features of the latest OS's.
At some point it's likely we'll introduce a feature or bug that will disable
the "accidental" backward compatibility that exists for platforms like win2k
(this already happens on linux where old os's, ahem, RH7.X don't have python
2.3.3+).
We're more than happy for someone else to tinker with this and see if
there's a reasonable solution, but we're not going to start adding support
for legacy OS's; not unless someone wants to start paying us to do that --
we've got enough interesting research moving forward.
Cheers,
--Ivan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
> [mailto:owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Ivan R. Judson
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 9:01 PM
> To: 'Randy Groves'; ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
> Subject: RE: [AG-TECH] Possible enhancement for Toolkit
>
>
> The toolkit is already handling the case where the machine
> has multiple network adapters; indeed almost all laptops have
> both wireless and wired connections, mine which I use for
> development has the following:
>
> NetWork Card(s): 3 NIC(s) Installed.
> [01]: Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network
> Connection
> Connection Name: Fast Ethernet
> Status: Media disconnected
> [02]: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2100
> LAN 3B Mini PCI Adapter
> Connection Name: Wireless
> Network Connection
> DHCP Enabled: Yes
> DHCP Server: 10.0.1.65
> IP address(es)
> [01]: 10.0.1.17
> [03]: Cisco Systems VPN Adapter
> Connection Name: MCS VPN
> DHCP Enabled: No
> IP address(es)
> [01]: 140.221.18.114
>
> Plus, add the vmware interfaces, MS's fancy ipv4/ipv6
> tunnels, teredo, et al and you'll find that on XP the toolkit
> is doing quite a good job of working in the face of *many*
> network interfaces ;)
>
> Here's my development desktop net interfaces:
>
> NetWork Card(s): 4 NIC(s) Installed.
> [01]: 3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast
> Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible)
> Connection Name: Wired
> DHCP Enabled: Yes
> DHCP Server: 140.221.11.6
> IP address(es)
> [01]: 140.221.34.71
> [02]: VMware Virtual Ethernet
> Adapter for VMnet1
> Connection Name: VMware
> Network Adapter
> VMnet1
> [03]: VMware Virtual Ethernet
> Adapter for VMnet8
> Connection Name: VMware
> Network Adapter
> VMnet8
> [04]: 1394 Net Adapter
> Connection Name: 1394 Connection 2
> DHCP Enabled: Yes
> DHCP Server: N/A
> IP address(es)
>
> What kind of a feature are you looking for? What's the use
> case you're experiencing? What problem are you trying to solve?
>
> --Ivan
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
> > [mailto:owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Randy Groves
> > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:38 PM
> > To: ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
> > Subject: [AG-TECH] Possible enhancement for Toolkit
> >
> > My recent experience with the 'Microsoft TV/Video' network
> connection
> > brings to mind an enhancement. It would be nice if, during the
> > install (and maybe accessible later via a python script), if the
> > Toolkit finds more than one network adaptor installed on
> the machine,
> > it would ask the installer which one it should use. This
> would have
> > made it obvious in my case, but also would handle the case
> where there
> > REALLY is more than one network adaptor in a machine. I know that
> > I've also seen a 1394 network adaptor installed on various machines
> > with FireWire adaptors.
> >
> > I will enter this in Bugzilla if it sounds like a good idea.
> >
> > -randy
> >
> >
>
>
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