Update on Wed 5 pm: Talking Circle - President Clinton Demo]

[Frank Gilfeather]

All,

"Digital Talking Circle" - symbolically my guess is that we will pass the floor
around the screen without jumping back to the modertor - so we need to pass the
virtual right to speak from site to site - perhads west to east or something -
it will be agreed to on Sunday's call .  Ironically this is basically how the
AG functions anyway.  We need to add this language and the context to the lore
of the AG.  See we gained something already from this exercise.  Evan's
extended description of a talking circle is at
http://www.eot.ahpcc.unm.edu/DTC.htm.  Clinton will not participate but would
look in on it in progress - our hope.

We are still organizing this and feel there is a home run if we pull it off.
Neal Lane will be in NM with Clinton so we feel there is a good chance this
will be seen by the President.

For Monday, we would like to have Larry and Dan if possible at NCSA, a group,
yet identified at NSF at ACCESS/DC along with Phil, ANL of course, BU, UK,
MHPCC, UNM of course .  We need to test on Sunday and stand by for a period on
Monday.  Times will become better focused closer to Monday BUT I personnally
fear time will overtake the President and he may miss Dine' altogether (Dine'
is the third stop on his 2.5 hr visit.).  NSF has not been notified so I am
including Elbert.

Currently we may set up in the visz lab where the president may go (this
depends on Neal Lane getting Clinton from the lobby to the visz room) to see a
PicTel demo by Livermore The idea is to still do the talking circle from the
visz lab.  I note that the two other demos the president may see are PicTel -
so if we can pull it off it is a big step foreward for the Alliance AG
program.  Lane is aware that the current agenda has the president in the lobby
of Dine' only and that he wants to take Clinton to the visz lab.

Everyone on site - the Navajo group (represented by Al Kuslikis)and the UNM
group are working hard - other agencies are joining in.  Bill and our team(s)
here  have been doing tremoundous things.  We are greatly indebted to many of
committed folks.

Frank

A web site with a reference to the trip is
http://www.pub.whitehouse.gov/uri-res/I2R?urn:pdi://oma.eop.gov.us/2000/4/5/10.text.1

PS

Unfortunately i will probably not be present as a family health matter takes
presidence.







Bill Nickless wrote:

> At 09:09 PM 4/11/2000 -0500, Robert Olson wrote:
> >There is a plan in the works to use the AG in a Digital Talking Circle
> >with President Clinton, president of Dine' college, Frank G, Rick, Larry,
> >Dan Reed, folks at ACCESS-DC.
>
> Excerpted from http://www.uccan.org/global/interfaith01.htm#5 we read:
>
> >5. Talking Circles
> >The initial challenge in interfaith work is how to establish trust.
> >Without trust, conversation soon grinds to a halt. How the conversation is
> >conducted reflects power structures. A guest speaker is still a guest, one
> >voice among many. How do we break out of the Western Christian model of
> >conversation? Asked another way, the question becomes "How should we meet
> >each other?" When this question was posed to Aboriginal communities, the
> >response was the talking circle. In the talking circle, a sacred emblem is
> >passed from person to person, and the holder bears the right to speak
> >without interruption. In such a way, the voices of all those present are
> >honoured.
> >·       The talking circle takes time, which may at first be perceived as
> >a limitation but is actually a strength. It is a model based on completion
> >and respect, rather than reliance on "authoritative" perspectives.
>
> For context, the source of the quotation is the United Church of Canada.
>
> I don't know how a Digital Talking Circle would operate on Monday.
> ===
> Bill Nickless    http://www.mcs.anl.gov/people/nickless      +1 630 252 7390
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High Performance Computing,
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