bandwidth (was Re: AG reservation)

Tom Coffin tcoffin at ncsa.uiuc.edu
Fri Oct 1 14:27:02 CDT 1999


great dialogue...
what about sessions? 

How do we set up a accessgrid session
that others can vic and rat into? 

Are there specific hardware requirements
for the machines hosting these sessions?
if so, what are they?

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At 11:28 AM 10/1/99 -0500, Ivan R. Judson wrote:
   >
   >A small historical note:
   >
   >People have been making this technology require less and less of the
bridge
   >type technology; from the beginning with DVMRP, and mrouted's (where
mrouted
   >was tunneled to other mrouted's) and the first Mbone where the whole thing
   >was tunnels, people have known this was the wrong solution.
   >
   >This is why native multicast has been developed...
   >
   >--Ivan
   >
   >> -----Original Message-----
   >> From: owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov [mailto:owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov]On
   >> Behalf Of Tony Rimovsky
   >> Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 11:22 AM
   >> To: Tom Coffin
   >> Cc: ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
   >> Subject: Re: bandwidth (was Re: AG reservation)
   >>
   >>
   >> In my opinion, the 'magic' of bridges should be limited to the greatest
   >> extent possible.  If a site can use native multicast, it should.
   >> If a site
   >> doesn't have native multicast, it should be working on it.  As Bill
   >> mentioned on the moo a couple of weeks ago, for about $3000 in
   >> hardware, any
   >> site can be fully multicast capable.
   >>
   >> Don't get me wrong.  The bridges have saved the bacon of many
   >> demos and will
   >> be of great utility until the wide-area performance/stability issues get
   >> resolved .  However, there are scaling and design issues involved
with any
   >> sort of widespread deployment of the bridging, and I do not thing
   >> one of the
   >> access-grid goals should be to create a variation of the MBone tunneling
   >> mess.
   >>
   >> /tsr
   >>
   >> On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, Tom Coffin wrote:
   >>
   >> > when do we learn the magic of creating our own bridges and sessions?
   >>
   >
   >


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