Schedule for SC99 Access Grid w/ QoS demo
Karen Green
kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
Tue Nov 9 11:04:26 CST 1999
Rick, et al:
Will the QoS demo involve the use of Globus, and if so, will you need to
access Globus resources from the dedicated machine in our booth? Need to
know in order to prevent conflicts with accessing Globus resources. Let me
know asap.
thanks
Karen
At 02:43 PM 11/8/99 -0600, Rick Stevens wrote:
>Karen, this is great.. and I deeply appreciate the effort.. (I'm sorry for
>causing such
>a problem with things..).. Yes please pursue Monday evening if you can..
>
>--Rick
>
>At 02:39 PM 11/8/99 , Karen Green wrote:
>>Rick:
>>
>>Here is what I can give you for sure:
>>
>>2 p.m. and 5 p.m. on Tuesday
>>
>>5 p.m. Wednesday
>>
>>2 p.m. and 3 p.m. Thursday
>>
>>I think I can get you on at 8 p.m. Monday night for the VIP show, but need
>>to check with some of the other people first.
>>
>>With a little rearranging that's what's is available. Let me know if I
>>should persue the Monday night slot.
>>
>>karen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 02:18 PM 11/8/99 -0600, Rick Stevens wrote:
>> >Karen at this point can you just sign up the AG for QoS experiments
when you
>> >have a free slot on the displays.. about two session per day.. thanks.
>> >
>> >At 01:37 PM 11/8/99 , Karen Green wrote:
>> >>Rick:
>> >>
>> >>The AG schedule may be open, but the Alliance booth demo schedule is very
>> >>tight. Even though there are not many demos using the Access Grid, we
have
>> >>a lot of people who are not doing Grid demos scheduled to use the AG
>> >>display system. That is why scheduling may be a problem for our booth. In
>> >>addition to the times mentioned below, we have 5 p.m. Tuesday and
Wednesday
>> >>available. An alternative mentioned by Ian was to use the workstation
>> >>dedicated to Globus for this demo. This would give us many more
scheduling
>> >>options, but I'm not sure if it would work in terms of using the AG from
>> >>that workstation.
>> >>
>> >>Karen
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>At 12:44 PM 11/8/99 -0600, Rick Stevens wrote:
>> >> >I looked at the AG schedule and most of it is still empty.. Since
the AG
>> >> >group is
>> >> >still working out the schedule, it certainly is not closed yet. I
>> want to
>> >> >encourage
>> >> >everyone to check the AG Web site for the Virtual Venue schedule (which
>> >> >should start
>> >> >to appear later today).. with the new VV software multiple AG events
>>can be
>> >> >going
>> >> >on simultaneous (with different subsets of the sites participating),
and
>> >> >with with
>> >> >the ability to move from one virtual location to another.. This indeed
>> >>provides
>> >> >much more flexibility with the AG schedule..
>> >> >
>> >> >At 09:45 AM 11/8/99 , Karen Green wrote:
>> >> >>All:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Our demo schedule has been set for a month, so their is very little
>> >> >>available time on the Access Grid in our booth for this demo. Here is
>>what
>> >> >>is available:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Tuesday, 2 p.m.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Thursday, 3 pm.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>*If our Monday night 8 p.m. demo can be moved, that slot might also be
>> >> >>available.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Please let me know asap if any of these times work. At this late
>> date, we
>> >> >>can't change the schedule too much because other people have already
>> >> >>committed their time and effort.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Karen
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>At 05:19 PM 11/5/99 -0600, Steve Tuecke wrote:
>> >> >> >I think all of the technical ducks are lined up for demos between
the
>> >> ANL,
>> >> >> >NCSA, and LBNL booths of Access Grid with network QoS using
>> >> >> >Globus/GARA. To summarize:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > * NCSA, ANL, and LBNL will each have AG nodes in their booths.
>>(Steve
>> >> >> >Lau confirmed the LBNL AG node today.)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > * There will be a completely separate network between these three
>> >>booths
>> >> >> >that will have the QoS support. Linda has confirmed that this is
>>all set
>> >> >> >for all three booths.
>> >> >> > The easiest way to handle this separate network is to setup
>> the AG
>> >> >> >machines to get their IP addresses from DHCP. Then when we want to
>> >> switch
>> >> >> >between normal and QoS network we swap network connections and
reboot.
>> >>Bob
>> >> >> >and Linda have worked out the details of this.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > * Because of current cisco router limitations, the QoS cannot be
>>done
>> >> >> >with multicast. So I believe the plan is to just to AG QoS demos
with
>> >>2 AG
>> >> >> >nodes at a time, using unicast UDP for audio and video. (Volker,
>>Linda,
>> >> >> >Bob: Can the demo be done with all 3 AG nodes simultaneously?)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >So the issue is now scheduling of the AG nodes for running with QoS.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >The infrastructure on which this demo is running is completely
>> disjoint
>> >> >> >from that used by other Globus demos, so the Globus group does not
>> have
>> >>any
>> >> >> >constraints on when the AG QoS demos can occur.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >I believe Terry Disz is coordinating the AG demos, so can the
NCSA and
>> >>LBNL
>> >> >> >AG schedulers please work with Terry to setup slots for
ANL<->NCSA and
>> >> >> >ANL<->LBNL demos. (Unless we think we can do all three
>> >> simultaneously, in
>> >> >> >which case we should do so.)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >The only input we have received on scheduling these demos is from
Rick
>> >> >> >Stevens, who wrote on that accessgrid mail list a few days ago, "we
>> >> should
>> >> >> >do this demo a number of times each day I would think."
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >-Steve
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >At 01:10 PM 11/5/99 , Rick Stevens wrote:
>> >> >> >>We need a schedule of when we want to do the QoS tests and get
>> that on
>> >>the
>> >> >> >>AG schedules
>> >> >> >>for the various booths.. Do we have a tentative schedule from the
>> >> Globus
>> >> >> >>group on
>> >> >> >>when they would like to do this.. ?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>At 12:50 PM 11/5/99 , Patrick Dorn wrote:
>> >> >> >>>all,
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>i believe that the technical issues are resolved. NCSA's cisco
>>7507 has
>> >> >> >>>been shipped, and the NCSA booth will have the requisite ATM
>> >> connection.
>> >> >> >>>linda and i will be setting up the PVC mesh, etc on site.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>i'm not sure that anyone has contacted the NCSA booth folks
>> regarding
>> >> >> >>>scheduling, though. whoever is in charge of this beast should
>> contact
>> >> >> >>>them soon. email to sc99 at ncsa.uiuc.edu will reach the committee.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>pld
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 12:06:48PM -0600, Charlie Catlett wrote:
>> >> >> >>> > Jeff/Tony/Patrick/John-
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Are you in sync with Steve Tuecke & Co. regarding the
planned QoS
>> >> >>demo of
>> >> >> >>> > the AG at SC? Not sure who needs to be in the loop with the
>> >> cc'd ANL
>> >> >> >>> crowd
>> >> >> >>> > but please forward if I don't have all of the right NCSA
folks on
>> >>this
>> >> >> >>> > note. Among other things we need to make sure that the node in
>>the
>> >> >> NCSA
>> >> >> >>> > booth is available for the demo (not sure what the schedule
>> is for
>> >> >> this)
>> >> >> >>> > and that all of the technical ducks are lined up.
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > So can the right one of you please follow up with Steve?
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Thanks!
>> >> >> >>> > CeC
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>--
>> >> >>
>> >>>=====================================http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/dorn/==
>> >> >> >>>patrick dorn
>> >> >> >>>dorn at ncsa.uiuc.edu network engineer
>> >> >> >>>217.244.3319 ncsa network
>> development
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>---------------------------------------------------
>> >> >>Karen Green
>> >> >>Assistant Director for Communications
>> >> >>National Center for Supercomputing Applications
>> >> >>605 E. Springfield Ave.
>> >> >>Champaign, IL 61820
>> >> >>kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
>> >> >>ph: 217-265-0748, fax: 217-244-7396
>> >> >>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/
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>> >> >
>> >>---------------------------------------------------
>> >>Karen Green
>> >>Assistant Director for Communications
>> >>National Center for Supercomputing Applications
>> >>605 E. Springfield Ave.
>> >>Champaign, IL 61820
>> >>kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
>> >>ph: 217-265-0748, fax: 217-244-7396
>> >>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/
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>> >
>> >
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>>Karen Green
>>Assistant Director for Communications
>>National Center for Supercomputing Applications
>>605 E. Springfield Ave.
>>Champaign, IL 61820
>>kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
>>ph: 217-265-0748, fax: 217-244-7396
>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/
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Karen Green
Assistant Director for Communications
National Center for Supercomputing Applications
605 E. Springfield Ave.
Champaign, IL 61820
kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
ph: 217-265-0748, fax: 217-244-7396
http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/
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