Schedule for SC99 Access Grid w/ QoS demo

Tue Nov 9 11:49:58 CST 1999

the QoS demo will not use Alliance Globus resources (only ANL Globus 
Resources).
lw
At 11:04 AM 11/9/99 -0600, Karen Green wrote:
>Rick, et al:
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>Will the QoS demo involve the use of Globus, and if so, will you need to
>access Globus resources from the dedicated machine in our booth? Need to
>know in order to prevent conflicts with accessing Globus resources. Let me
>know asap.
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>thanks
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>Karen
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>At 02:43 PM 11/8/99 -0600, Rick Stevens wrote:
> >Karen, this is great.. and I deeply appreciate the effort.. (I'm sorry for
> >causing such
> >a problem with things..).. Yes please pursue Monday evening if you can..
> >
> >--Rick
> >
> >At 02:39 PM 11/8/99 , Karen Green wrote:
> >>Rick:
> >>
> >>Here is what I can give you for sure:
> >>
> >>2 p.m. and 5 p.m. on Tuesday
> >>
> >>5 p.m. Wednesday
> >>
> >>2 p.m. and 3 p.m. Thursday
> >>
> >>I think I can get you on at 8 p.m. Monday night for the VIP show, but need
> >>to check with some of the other people first.
> >>
> >>With a little rearranging that's what's is available. Let me know if I
> >>should persue the Monday night slot.
> >>
> >>karen
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>At 02:18 PM 11/8/99 -0600, Rick Stevens wrote:
> >> >Karen at this point can you just sign up the AG for QoS experiments
>when you
> >> >have a free slot on the displays.. about two session per day.. thanks.
> >> >
> >> >At 01:37 PM 11/8/99 , Karen Green wrote:
> >> >>Rick:
> >> >>
> >> >>The AG schedule may be open, but the Alliance booth demo schedule is 
> very
> >> >>tight. Even though there are not many demos using the Access Grid, we
>have
> >> >>a lot of people who are not doing Grid demos scheduled to use the AG
> >> >>display system. That is why scheduling may be a problem for our 
> booth. In
> >> >>addition to the times mentioned below, we have 5 p.m. Tuesday and
>Wednesday
> >> >>available. An alternative mentioned by Ian was to use the workstation
> >> >>dedicated to Globus for this demo. This would give us many more
>scheduling
> >> >>options, but I'm not sure if it would work in terms of using the AG from
> >> >>that workstation.
> >> >>
> >> >>Karen
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>At 12:44 PM 11/8/99 -0600, Rick Stevens wrote:
> >> >> >I looked at the AG schedule and most of it is still empty..  Since
>the AG
> >> >> >group is
> >> >> >still working out the schedule, it certainly is not closed yet.  I
> >> want to
> >> >> >encourage
> >> >> >everyone to check the AG Web site for the Virtual Venue schedule 
> (which
> >> >> >should start
> >> >> >to appear later today).. with the new VV software multiple AG events
> >>can be
> >> >> >going
> >> >> >on simultaneous (with different subsets of the sites participating),
>and
> >> >> >with with
> >> >> >the ability to move from one virtual location to another.. This indeed
> >> >>provides
> >> >> >much more flexibility with the AG schedule..
> >> >> >
> >> >> >At 09:45 AM 11/8/99 , Karen Green wrote:
> >> >> >>All:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Our demo schedule has been set for a month, so their is very little
> >> >> >>available time on the Access Grid in our booth for this demo. Here is
> >>what
> >> >> >>is available:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Tuesday, 2 p.m.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Thursday, 3 pm.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>*If our Monday night 8 p.m. demo can be moved, that slot might 
> also be
> >> >> >>available.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Please let me know asap if any of these times work. At this late
> >> date, we
> >> >> >>can't change the schedule too much because other people have already
> >> >> >>committed their time and effort.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Karen
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>At 05:19 PM 11/5/99 -0600, Steve Tuecke wrote:
> >> >> >> >I think all of the technical ducks are lined up for demos between
>the
> >> >> ANL,
> >> >> >> >NCSA, and LBNL booths of Access Grid with network QoS using
> >> >> >> >Globus/GARA.  To summarize:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >   * NCSA, ANL, and LBNL will each have AG nodes in their booths.
> >>(Steve
> >> >> >> >Lau confirmed the LBNL AG node today.)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >   * There will be a completely separate network between these 
> three
> >> >>booths
> >> >> >> >that will have the QoS support.  Linda has confirmed that this is
> >>all set
> >> >> >> >for all three booths.
> >> >> >> >     The easiest way to handle this separate network is to setup
> >> the AG
> >> >> >> >machines to get their IP addresses from DHCP.  Then when we want to
> >> >> switch
> >> >> >> >between normal and QoS network we swap network connections and
>reboot.
> >> >>Bob
> >> >> >> >and Linda have worked out the details of this.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >   * Because of current cisco router limitations, the QoS cannot be
> >>done
> >> >> >> >with multicast.  So I believe the plan is to just to AG QoS demos
>with
> >> >>2 AG
> >> >> >> >nodes at a time, using unicast UDP for audio and video.  (Volker,
> >>Linda,
> >> >> >> >Bob: Can the demo be done with all 3 AG nodes simultaneously?)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >So the issue is now scheduling of the AG nodes for running with 
> QoS.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >The infrastructure on which this demo is running is completely
> >> disjoint
> >> >> >> >from that used by other Globus demos, so the Globus group does not
> >> have
> >> >>any
> >> >> >> >constraints on when the AG QoS demos can occur.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >I believe Terry Disz is coordinating the AG demos, so can the
>NCSA and
> >> >>LBNL
> >> >> >> >AG schedulers please work with Terry to setup slots for
>ANL<->NCSA and
> >> >> >> >ANL<->LBNL demos.  (Unless we think we can do all three
> >> >> simultaneously, in
> >> >> >> >which case we should do so.)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >The only input we have received on scheduling these demos is from
>Rick
> >> >> >> >Stevens, who wrote on that accessgrid mail list a few days ago, "we
> >> >> should
> >> >> >> >do this demo a number of times each day I would think."
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >-Steve
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >At 01:10 PM 11/5/99 , Rick Stevens wrote:
> >> >> >> >>We need a schedule of when we want to do the QoS tests and get
> >> that on
> >> >>the
> >> >> >> >>AG schedules
> >> >> >> >>for the various booths..  Do we have a tentative schedule from the
> >> >> Globus
> >> >> >> >>group on
> >> >> >> >>when they would like to do this.. ?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>At 12:50 PM 11/5/99 , Patrick Dorn wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>all,
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>i believe that the technical issues are resolved. NCSA's cisco
> >>7507 has
> >> >> >> >>>been shipped, and the NCSA booth will have the requisite ATM
> >> >> connection.
> >> >> >> >>>linda and i will be setting up the PVC mesh, etc on site.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>i'm not sure that anyone has contacted the NCSA booth folks
> >> regarding
> >> >> >> >>>scheduling, though. whoever is in charge of this beast should
> >> contact
> >> >> >> >>>them soon. email to sc99 at ncsa.uiuc.edu will reach the committee.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>pld
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 12:06:48PM -0600, Charlie Catlett wrote:
> >> >> >> >>> > Jeff/Tony/Patrick/John-
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> > Are you in sync with Steve Tuecke & Co. regarding the
>planned QoS
> >> >> >>demo of
> >> >> >> >>> > the AG at SC?  Not sure who needs to be in the loop with the
> >> >> cc'd ANL
> >> >> >> >>> crowd
> >> >> >> >>> > but please forward if I don't have all of the right NCSA
>folks on
> >> >>this
> >> >> >> >>> > note.  Among other things we need to make sure that the 
> node in
> >>the
> >> >> >> NCSA
> >> >> >> >>> > booth is available for the demo (not sure what the schedule
> >> is for
> >> >> >> this)
> >> >> >> >>> > and that all of the technical ducks are lined up.
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> > So can the right one of you please follow up with Steve?
> >> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >> >>> > Thanks!
> >> >> >> >>> > CeC
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>--
> >> >> >>
> >> >>>=====================================http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/dorn/==
> >> >> >> >>>patrick dorn
> >> >> >> >>>dorn at ncsa.uiuc.edu                           network engineer
> >> >> >> >>>217.244.3319                                 ncsa network
> >> development
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >>Karen Green
> >> >> >>Assistant Director for Communications
> >> >> >>National Center for Supercomputing Applications
> >> >> >>605 E. Springfield Ave.
> >> >> >>Champaign, IL 61820
> >> >> >>kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
> >> >> >>ph: 217-265-0748, fax: 217-244-7396
> >> >> >>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/
> >> >> >>----------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>---------------------------------------------------
> >> >>Karen Green
> >> >>Assistant Director for Communications
> >> >>National Center for Supercomputing Applications
> >> >>605 E. Springfield Ave.
> >> >>Champaign, IL 61820
> >> >>kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
> >> >>ph: 217-265-0748, fax: 217-244-7396
> >> >>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/
> >> >>----------------------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> >
> >>---------------------------------------------------
> >>Karen Green
> >>Assistant Director for Communications
> >>National Center for Supercomputing Applications
> >>605 E. Springfield Ave.
> >>Champaign, IL 61820
> >>kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
> >>ph: 217-265-0748, fax: 217-244-7396
> >>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/
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> >
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>Karen Green
>Assistant Director for Communications
>National Center for Supercomputing Applications
>605 E. Springfield Ave.
>Champaign, IL 61820
>kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
>ph: 217-265-0748, fax: 217-244-7396
>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/
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