Schedule for SC99 Access Grid w/ QoS demo

Rick Stevens stevens at mcs.anl.gov
Mon Nov 8 14:43:11 CST 1999


Karen, this is great.. and I deeply appreciate the effort.. (I'm sorry for 
causing such
a problem with things..).. Yes please pursue Monday evening if you can..

--Rick

At 02:39 PM 11/8/99 , Karen Green wrote:
>Rick:
>
>Here is what I can give you for sure:
>
>2 p.m. and 5 p.m. on Tuesday
>
>5 p.m. Wednesday
>
>2 p.m. and 3 p.m. Thursday
>
>I think I can get you on at 8 p.m. Monday night for the VIP show, but need
>to check with some of the other people first.
>
>With a little rearranging that's what's is available. Let me know if I
>should persue the Monday night slot.
>
>karen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>At 02:18 PM 11/8/99 -0600, Rick Stevens wrote:
> >Karen at this point can you just sign up the AG for QoS experiments when you
> >have a free slot on the displays.. about two session per day.. thanks.
> >
> >At 01:37 PM 11/8/99 , Karen Green wrote:
> >>Rick:
> >>
> >>The AG schedule may be open, but the Alliance booth demo schedule is very
> >>tight. Even though there are not many demos using the Access Grid, we have
> >>a lot of people who are not doing Grid demos scheduled to use the AG
> >>display system. That is why scheduling may be a problem for our booth. In
> >>addition to the times mentioned below, we have 5 p.m. Tuesday and Wednesday
> >>available. An alternative mentioned by Ian was to use the workstation
> >>dedicated to Globus for this demo. This would give us many more scheduling
> >>options, but I'm not sure if it would work in terms of using the AG from
> >>that workstation.
> >>
> >>Karen
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>At 12:44 PM 11/8/99 -0600, Rick Stevens wrote:
> >> >I looked at the AG schedule and most of it is still empty..  Since the AG
> >> >group is
> >> >still working out the schedule, it certainly is not closed yet.  I 
> want to
> >> >encourage
> >> >everyone to check the AG Web site for the Virtual Venue schedule (which
> >> >should start
> >> >to appear later today).. with the new VV software multiple AG events
>can be
> >> >going
> >> >on simultaneous (with different subsets of the sites participating), and
> >> >with with
> >> >the ability to move from one virtual location to another.. This indeed
> >>provides
> >> >much more flexibility with the AG schedule..
> >> >
> >> >At 09:45 AM 11/8/99 , Karen Green wrote:
> >> >>All:
> >> >>
> >> >>Our demo schedule has been set for a month, so their is very little
> >> >>available time on the Access Grid in our booth for this demo. Here is
>what
> >> >>is available:
> >> >>
> >> >>Tuesday, 2 p.m.
> >> >>
> >> >>Thursday, 3 pm.
> >> >>
> >> >>*If our Monday night 8 p.m. demo can be moved, that slot might also be
> >> >>available.
> >> >>
> >> >>Please let me know asap if any of these times work. At this late 
> date, we
> >> >>can't change the schedule too much because other people have already
> >> >>committed their time and effort.
> >> >>
> >> >>Karen
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>At 05:19 PM 11/5/99 -0600, Steve Tuecke wrote:
> >> >> >I think all of the technical ducks are lined up for demos between the
> >> ANL,
> >> >> >NCSA, and LBNL booths of Access Grid with network QoS using
> >> >> >Globus/GARA.  To summarize:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >   * NCSA, ANL, and LBNL will each have AG nodes in their booths.
>(Steve
> >> >> >Lau confirmed the LBNL AG node today.)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >   * There will be a completely separate network between these three
> >>booths
> >> >> >that will have the QoS support.  Linda has confirmed that this is
>all set
> >> >> >for all three booths.
> >> >> >     The easiest way to handle this separate network is to setup 
> the AG
> >> >> >machines to get their IP addresses from DHCP.  Then when we want to
> >> switch
> >> >> >between normal and QoS network we swap network connections and reboot.
> >>Bob
> >> >> >and Linda have worked out the details of this.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >   * Because of current cisco router limitations, the QoS cannot be
>done
> >> >> >with multicast.  So I believe the plan is to just to AG QoS demos with
> >>2 AG
> >> >> >nodes at a time, using unicast UDP for audio and video.  (Volker,
>Linda,
> >> >> >Bob: Can the demo be done with all 3 AG nodes simultaneously?)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >So the issue is now scheduling of the AG nodes for running with QoS.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The infrastructure on which this demo is running is completely 
> disjoint
> >> >> >from that used by other Globus demos, so the Globus group does not 
> have
> >>any
> >> >> >constraints on when the AG QoS demos can occur.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I believe Terry Disz is coordinating the AG demos, so can the NCSA and
> >>LBNL
> >> >> >AG schedulers please work with Terry to setup slots for ANL<->NCSA and
> >> >> >ANL<->LBNL demos.  (Unless we think we can do all three
> >> simultaneously, in
> >> >> >which case we should do so.)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The only input we have received on scheduling these demos is from Rick
> >> >> >Stevens, who wrote on that accessgrid mail list a few days ago, "we
> >> should
> >> >> >do this demo a number of times each day I would think."
> >> >> >
> >> >> >-Steve
> >> >> >
> >> >> >At 01:10 PM 11/5/99 , Rick Stevens wrote:
> >> >> >>We need a schedule of when we want to do the QoS tests and get 
> that on
> >>the
> >> >> >>AG schedules
> >> >> >>for the various booths..  Do we have a tentative schedule from the
> >> Globus
> >> >> >>group on
> >> >> >>when they would like to do this.. ?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>At 12:50 PM 11/5/99 , Patrick Dorn wrote:
> >> >> >>>all,
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>i believe that the technical issues are resolved. NCSA's cisco
>7507 has
> >> >> >>>been shipped, and the NCSA booth will have the requisite ATM
> >> connection.
> >> >> >>>linda and i will be setting up the PVC mesh, etc on site.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>i'm not sure that anyone has contacted the NCSA booth folks 
> regarding
> >> >> >>>scheduling, though. whoever is in charge of this beast should 
> contact
> >> >> >>>them soon. email to sc99 at ncsa.uiuc.edu will reach the committee.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>pld
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 12:06:48PM -0600, Charlie Catlett wrote:
> >> >> >>> > Jeff/Tony/Patrick/John-
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > Are you in sync with Steve Tuecke & Co. regarding the planned QoS
> >> >>demo of
> >> >> >>> > the AG at SC?  Not sure who needs to be in the loop with the
> >> cc'd ANL
> >> >> >>> crowd
> >> >> >>> > but please forward if I don't have all of the right NCSA folks on
> >>this
> >> >> >>> > note.  Among other things we need to make sure that the node in
>the
> >> >> NCSA
> >> >> >>> > booth is available for the demo (not sure what the schedule 
> is for
> >> >> this)
> >> >> >>> > and that all of the technical ducks are lined up.
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > So can the right one of you please follow up with Steve?
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > Thanks!
> >> >> >>> > CeC
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>--
> >> >>
> >>>=====================================http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/dorn/==
> >> >> >>>patrick dorn
> >> >> >>>dorn at ncsa.uiuc.edu                           network engineer
> >> >> >>>217.244.3319                                 ncsa network 
> development
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>---------------------------------------------------
> >> >>Karen Green
> >> >>Assistant Director for Communications
> >> >>National Center for Supercomputing Applications
> >> >>605 E. Springfield Ave.
> >> >>Champaign, IL 61820
> >> >>kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
> >> >>ph: 217-265-0748, fax: 217-244-7396
> >> >>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/
> >> >>----------------------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> >
> >>---------------------------------------------------
> >>Karen Green
> >>Assistant Director for Communications
> >>National Center for Supercomputing Applications
> >>605 E. Springfield Ave.
> >>Champaign, IL 61820
> >>kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
> >>ph: 217-265-0748, fax: 217-244-7396
> >>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/
> >>----------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
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>Karen Green
>Assistant Director for Communications
>National Center for Supercomputing Applications
>605 E. Springfield Ave.
>Champaign, IL 61820
>kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
>ph: 217-265-0748, fax: 217-244-7396
>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/
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