Schedule for SC99 Access Grid w/ QoS demo

Karen Green kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
Mon Nov 8 14:39:19 CST 1999


Rick:

Here is what I can give you for sure:

2 p.m. and 5 p.m. on Tuesday

5 p.m. Wednesday

2 p.m. and 3 p.m. Thursday

I think I can get you on at 8 p.m. Monday night for the VIP show, but need
to check with some of the other people first.

With a little rearranging that's what's is available. Let me know if I
should persue the Monday night slot.

karen






At 02:18 PM 11/8/99 -0600, Rick Stevens wrote:
>Karen at this point can you just sign up the AG for QoS experiments when you
>have a free slot on the displays.. about two session per day.. thanks.
>
>At 01:37 PM 11/8/99 , Karen Green wrote:
>>Rick:
>>
>>The AG schedule may be open, but the Alliance booth demo schedule is very
>>tight. Even though there are not many demos using the Access Grid, we have
>>a lot of people who are not doing Grid demos scheduled to use the AG
>>display system. That is why scheduling may be a problem for our booth. In
>>addition to the times mentioned below, we have 5 p.m. Tuesday and Wednesday
>>available. An alternative mentioned by Ian was to use the workstation
>>dedicated to Globus for this demo. This would give us many more scheduling
>>options, but I'm not sure if it would work in terms of using the AG from
>>that workstation.
>>
>>Karen
>>
>>
>>
>>At 12:44 PM 11/8/99 -0600, Rick Stevens wrote:
>> >I looked at the AG schedule and most of it is still empty..  Since the AG
>> >group is
>> >still working out the schedule, it certainly is not closed yet.  I want to
>> >encourage
>> >everyone to check the AG Web site for the Virtual Venue schedule (which
>> >should start
>> >to appear later today).. with the new VV software multiple AG events
can be
>> >going
>> >on simultaneous (with different subsets of the sites participating), and
>> >with with
>> >the ability to move from one virtual location to another.. This indeed
>>provides
>> >much more flexibility with the AG schedule..
>> >
>> >At 09:45 AM 11/8/99 , Karen Green wrote:
>> >>All:
>> >>
>> >>Our demo schedule has been set for a month, so their is very little
>> >>available time on the Access Grid in our booth for this demo. Here is
what
>> >>is available:
>> >>
>> >>Tuesday, 2 p.m.
>> >>
>> >>Thursday, 3 pm.
>> >>
>> >>*If our Monday night 8 p.m. demo can be moved, that slot might also be
>> >>available.
>> >>
>> >>Please let me know asap if any of these times work. At this late date, we
>> >>can't change the schedule too much because other people have already
>> >>committed their time and effort.
>> >>
>> >>Karen
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>At 05:19 PM 11/5/99 -0600, Steve Tuecke wrote:
>> >> >I think all of the technical ducks are lined up for demos between the 
>> ANL,
>> >> >NCSA, and LBNL booths of Access Grid with network QoS using
>> >> >Globus/GARA.  To summarize:
>> >> >
>> >> >   * NCSA, ANL, and LBNL will each have AG nodes in their booths.
(Steve
>> >> >Lau confirmed the LBNL AG node today.)
>> >> >
>> >> >   * There will be a completely separate network between these three
>>booths
>> >> >that will have the QoS support.  Linda has confirmed that this is
all set
>> >> >for all three booths.
>> >> >     The easiest way to handle this separate network is to setup the AG
>> >> >machines to get their IP addresses from DHCP.  Then when we want to 
>> switch
>> >> >between normal and QoS network we swap network connections and reboot.
>>Bob
>> >> >and Linda have worked out the details of this.
>> >> >
>> >> >   * Because of current cisco router limitations, the QoS cannot be
done
>> >> >with multicast.  So I believe the plan is to just to AG QoS demos with
>>2 AG
>> >> >nodes at a time, using unicast UDP for audio and video.  (Volker,
Linda,
>> >> >Bob: Can the demo be done with all 3 AG nodes simultaneously?)
>> >> >
>> >> >So the issue is now scheduling of the AG nodes for running with QoS.
>> >> >
>> >> >The infrastructure on which this demo is running is completely disjoint
>> >> >from that used by other Globus demos, so the Globus group does not have
>>any
>> >> >constraints on when the AG QoS demos can occur.
>> >> >
>> >> >I believe Terry Disz is coordinating the AG demos, so can the NCSA and
>>LBNL
>> >> >AG schedulers please work with Terry to setup slots for ANL<->NCSA and
>> >> >ANL<->LBNL demos.  (Unless we think we can do all three 
>> simultaneously, in
>> >> >which case we should do so.)
>> >> >
>> >> >The only input we have received on scheduling these demos is from Rick
>> >> >Stevens, who wrote on that accessgrid mail list a few days ago, "we 
>> should
>> >> >do this demo a number of times each day I would think."
>> >> >
>> >> >-Steve
>> >> >
>> >> >At 01:10 PM 11/5/99 , Rick Stevens wrote:
>> >> >>We need a schedule of when we want to do the QoS tests and get that on
>>the
>> >> >>AG schedules
>> >> >>for the various booths..  Do we have a tentative schedule from the 
>> Globus
>> >> >>group on
>> >> >>when they would like to do this.. ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>At 12:50 PM 11/5/99 , Patrick Dorn wrote:
>> >> >>>all,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>i believe that the technical issues are resolved. NCSA's cisco
7507 has
>> >> >>>been shipped, and the NCSA booth will have the requisite ATM 
>> connection.
>> >> >>>linda and i will be setting up the PVC mesh, etc on site.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>i'm not sure that anyone has contacted the NCSA booth folks regarding
>> >> >>>scheduling, though. whoever is in charge of this beast should contact
>> >> >>>them soon. email to sc99 at ncsa.uiuc.edu will reach the committee.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>pld
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 12:06:48PM -0600, Charlie Catlett wrote:
>> >> >>> > Jeff/Tony/Patrick/John-
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Are you in sync with Steve Tuecke & Co. regarding the planned QoS
>> >>demo of
>> >> >>> > the AG at SC?  Not sure who needs to be in the loop with the 
>> cc'd ANL
>> >> >>> crowd
>> >> >>> > but please forward if I don't have all of the right NCSA folks on
>>this
>> >> >>> > note.  Among other things we need to make sure that the node in
the
>> >> NCSA
>> >> >>> > booth is available for the demo (not sure what the schedule is for
>> >> this)
>> >> >>> > and that all of the technical ducks are lined up.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > So can the right one of you please follow up with Steve?
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Thanks!
>> >> >>> > CeC
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>--
>> >>
>>>=====================================http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/dorn/==
>> >> >>>patrick dorn
>> >> >>>dorn at ncsa.uiuc.edu                           network engineer
>> >> >>>217.244.3319                                 ncsa network development
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> >>Karen Green
>> >>Assistant Director for Communications
>> >>National Center for Supercomputing Applications
>> >>605 E. Springfield Ave.
>> >>Champaign, IL 61820
>> >>kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
>> >>ph: 217-265-0748, fax: 217-244-7396
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>>Karen Green
>>Assistant Director for Communications
>>National Center for Supercomputing Applications
>>605 E. Springfield Ave.
>>Champaign, IL 61820
>>kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
>>ph: 217-265-0748, fax: 217-244-7396
>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/
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Karen Green
Assistant Director for Communications
National Center for Supercomputing Applications
605 E. Springfield Ave.
Champaign, IL 61820
kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
ph: 217-265-0748, fax: 217-244-7396 
http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/
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