Schedule for SC99 Access Grid w/ QoS demo

Rick Stevens stevens at mcs.anl.gov
Mon Nov 8 14:18:10 CST 1999


Karen at this point can you just sign up the AG for QoS experiments when you
have a free slot on the displays.. about two session per day.. thanks.

At 01:37 PM 11/8/99 , Karen Green wrote:
>Rick:
>
>The AG schedule may be open, but the Alliance booth demo schedule is very
>tight. Even though there are not many demos using the Access Grid, we have
>a lot of people who are not doing Grid demos scheduled to use the AG
>display system. That is why scheduling may be a problem for our booth. In
>addition to the times mentioned below, we have 5 p.m. Tuesday and Wednesday
>available. An alternative mentioned by Ian was to use the workstation
>dedicated to Globus for this demo. This would give us many more scheduling
>options, but I'm not sure if it would work in terms of using the AG from
>that workstation.
>
>Karen
>
>
>
>At 12:44 PM 11/8/99 -0600, Rick Stevens wrote:
> >I looked at the AG schedule and most of it is still empty..  Since the AG
> >group is
> >still working out the schedule, it certainly is not closed yet.  I want to
> >encourage
> >everyone to check the AG Web site for the Virtual Venue schedule (which
> >should start
> >to appear later today).. with the new VV software multiple AG events can be
> >going
> >on simultaneous (with different subsets of the sites participating), and
> >with with
> >the ability to move from one virtual location to another.. This indeed
>provides
> >much more flexibility with the AG schedule..
> >
> >At 09:45 AM 11/8/99 , Karen Green wrote:
> >>All:
> >>
> >>Our demo schedule has been set for a month, so their is very little
> >>available time on the Access Grid in our booth for this demo. Here is what
> >>is available:
> >>
> >>Tuesday, 2 p.m.
> >>
> >>Thursday, 3 pm.
> >>
> >>*If our Monday night 8 p.m. demo can be moved, that slot might also be
> >>available.
> >>
> >>Please let me know asap if any of these times work. At this late date, we
> >>can't change the schedule too much because other people have already
> >>committed their time and effort.
> >>
> >>Karen
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>At 05:19 PM 11/5/99 -0600, Steve Tuecke wrote:
> >> >I think all of the technical ducks are lined up for demos between the 
> ANL,
> >> >NCSA, and LBNL booths of Access Grid with network QoS using
> >> >Globus/GARA.  To summarize:
> >> >
> >> >   * NCSA, ANL, and LBNL will each have AG nodes in their booths.  (Steve
> >> >Lau confirmed the LBNL AG node today.)
> >> >
> >> >   * There will be a completely separate network between these three
>booths
> >> >that will have the QoS support.  Linda has confirmed that this is all set
> >> >for all three booths.
> >> >     The easiest way to handle this separate network is to setup the AG
> >> >machines to get their IP addresses from DHCP.  Then when we want to 
> switch
> >> >between normal and QoS network we swap network connections and reboot.
>Bob
> >> >and Linda have worked out the details of this.
> >> >
> >> >   * Because of current cisco router limitations, the QoS cannot be done
> >> >with multicast.  So I believe the plan is to just to AG QoS demos with
>2 AG
> >> >nodes at a time, using unicast UDP for audio and video.  (Volker, Linda,
> >> >Bob: Can the demo be done with all 3 AG nodes simultaneously?)
> >> >
> >> >So the issue is now scheduling of the AG nodes for running with QoS.
> >> >
> >> >The infrastructure on which this demo is running is completely disjoint
> >> >from that used by other Globus demos, so the Globus group does not have
>any
> >> >constraints on when the AG QoS demos can occur.
> >> >
> >> >I believe Terry Disz is coordinating the AG demos, so can the NCSA and
>LBNL
> >> >AG schedulers please work with Terry to setup slots for ANL<->NCSA and
> >> >ANL<->LBNL demos.  (Unless we think we can do all three 
> simultaneously, in
> >> >which case we should do so.)
> >> >
> >> >The only input we have received on scheduling these demos is from Rick
> >> >Stevens, who wrote on that accessgrid mail list a few days ago, "we 
> should
> >> >do this demo a number of times each day I would think."
> >> >
> >> >-Steve
> >> >
> >> >At 01:10 PM 11/5/99 , Rick Stevens wrote:
> >> >>We need a schedule of when we want to do the QoS tests and get that on
>the
> >> >>AG schedules
> >> >>for the various booths..  Do we have a tentative schedule from the 
> Globus
> >> >>group on
> >> >>when they would like to do this.. ?
> >> >>
> >> >>At 12:50 PM 11/5/99 , Patrick Dorn wrote:
> >> >>>all,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>i believe that the technical issues are resolved. NCSA's cisco 7507 has
> >> >>>been shipped, and the NCSA booth will have the requisite ATM 
> connection.
> >> >>>linda and i will be setting up the PVC mesh, etc on site.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>i'm not sure that anyone has contacted the NCSA booth folks regarding
> >> >>>scheduling, though. whoever is in charge of this beast should contact
> >> >>>them soon. email to sc99 at ncsa.uiuc.edu will reach the committee.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>pld
> >> >>>
> >> >>>On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 12:06:48PM -0600, Charlie Catlett wrote:
> >> >>> > Jeff/Tony/Patrick/John-
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Are you in sync with Steve Tuecke & Co. regarding the planned QoS
> >>demo of
> >> >>> > the AG at SC?  Not sure who needs to be in the loop with the 
> cc'd ANL
> >> >>> crowd
> >> >>> > but please forward if I don't have all of the right NCSA folks on
>this
> >> >>> > note.  Among other things we need to make sure that the node in the
> >> NCSA
> >> >>> > booth is available for the demo (not sure what the schedule is for
> >> this)
> >> >>> > and that all of the technical ducks are lined up.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > So can the right one of you please follow up with Steve?
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Thanks!
> >> >>> > CeC
> >> >>>
> >> >>>--
> >> >>>=====================================http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/dorn/==
> >> >>>patrick dorn
> >> >>>dorn at ncsa.uiuc.edu                           network engineer
> >> >>>217.244.3319                                 ncsa network development
> >> >
> >> >
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> >>Assistant Director for Communications
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>National Center for Supercomputing Applications
>605 E. Springfield Ave.
>Champaign, IL 61820
>kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
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