virtual venues - institution roms

[Mary Fritsch]

sounds like a plan... especially step 3, need a deadline for folks to take in

there are just a few special cases/sites we need to address (I probably 
just need to understand relationship of certain sites to our bridging or 
1.x needs and why)

also, 2.x server still goes down a few times a week - I don't think people 
necessary jump to 1.x as a backup, but we kinda need to address this 
stability before some of those steps


At 10:35 AM 4/12/2004 -0500, you wrote:

>It's becoming less know-able, since most people are using NCSA scheduler to
>schedule events, even for our venues.
>
>However, I think it would be pretty reasonable to move the institutional
>venues to an institutional server (ag2) and host the old ag1 venues on the
>ag2 production server (since the number of them is fixed anyhow).
>
>This allows the slow expansion of the "main" venues anl hosts and arbitrary
>expansion of the "services" (aka institutional venues) that we host.
>
>Here's a proposal:
>
>Step 1, Immediately put a moratorium on creating any more ag1 spaces.
>
>Step 2, Immediately, turn off any new registrations for our ag1 bridge.
>
>Step 3, Start an email, testing, and publicity campaign with the 2.2.
>release that informs the community of the impending shutdown of the AG1
>infrastructure.
>
>Step 4, Labor Day: turn off ag1 institutional venues, they're available via
>ag2
>
>Step 5, Dec 1: Turn off the rest of the AG1 venues and the bridge server for
>it.
>
>--Ivan
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ag-dev at mcs.anl.gov
> > [mailto:owner-ag-dev at mcs.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens
> > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 10:25 AM
> > To: Robert Olson
> > Cc: Mary Fritsch; ag-dev at mcs.anl.gov
> > Subject: Re: virtual venues - institution roms
> >
> > right..
> >
> > we need to get folks off the AG1 stuff soon
> >
> > Mary how many events are still being hosting on AG1 venues ?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, Robert Olson wrote:
> >
> > > The issue at hand here is the venues that we are hosting for folks
> > > that are mirrored both on the original ag1 server and the agt
> > > transitional venue server.
> > >
> > > Your concern I think is handled by the AG2 venue mgmt stuff.
> > >
> > > --bob
> > >
> > > At 09:35 AM 4/12/2004, Rick Stevens wrote:
> > > >We want these to be very easy for folks to make..
> > ultimately we want
> > > >them like web sites that people can build to be very complex
> > > >collections of resources..
> > > >
> > > >On Mon, 12 Apr 2004,
> > > >Robert Olson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have been putting off the creation of new venues
> > since there's
> > > > > so much other stuff going on at the moment. My main problem is
> > > > > keeping track of
> > > > the
> > > > > incoming requests;  I've considered a web form for that but in
> > > > > some sense want to make folks to a little more effort
> > to request one.
> > > > >
> > > > > --bob
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 09:39 PM 4/10/2004, Mary Fritsch wrote:
> > > > > >All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I think I need to understand the current process of adding
> > > > > >Institution Venues to the AG.  Many of these have
> > dropped through
> > > > > >the cracks or been incorporated on one side (1.x
> > server) and not
> > > > > >the other (2.x) through no one person's fault really.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I know the question of these rooms is still in the
> > air, but after
> > > > taking a
> > > > > >survey of venues used, ,many meetings use an
> > institution room or
> > > > > >a NCSA venue at this point.  In fact, I have no
> > reservations on
> > > > > >the ANL side at all except for Kentucky's recurring meeting
> > > > > >(which they are moving to
> > > > NCSA
> > > > > >site).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Can we discuss the correct process to requesting an
> > institution
> > > > > >room, so that we don't get multiple emails re-posting
> > these types of requests?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Also, my current ANL venue reservation has failed.  I
> > made a few
> > > > > >changes to it.  I removed the choice of Secure Room, it seems
> > > > > >that combining 1.x and 2.x secure rooms are a little
> > complicated.
> > > > > >When I can chat with Bob about replacing the script on
> > this, that might change.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Mary
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >. mary fritsch . futures lab . mcs . argonne national
> > lab . 630 252 5297 .
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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. mary fritsch . futures lab . mcs . argonne national lab . 630 252 5297 .