virtual venues - institution roms

[Michael E. Papka]

I'm all for the transition from AG 1 to 2, but  with the NSCA 
Scheduler/Venue available they could/would still host AG 1 events.  We 
need to continue to push folks to make the transition.

Mary did a good job querying folks about why they had not moved to 2.0, 
I haven't had a chance to through the responses but we should.

We should also to try to influence weekly meeting folks to move, SWoF 
and Fusion decreed the move to 2.0 and now individuals within those 
groups use 2.0 for most events.

Mike

On Apr 12, 2004, at 10:35 AM, Ivan R. Judson wrote:

>
> It's becoming less know-able, since most people are using NCSA 
> scheduler to
> schedule events, even for our venues.
>
> However, I think it would be pretty reasonable to move the 
> institutional
> venues to an institutional server (ag2) and host the old ag1 venues on 
> the
> ag2 production server (since the number of them is fixed anyhow).
>
> This allows the slow expansion of the "main" venues anl hosts and 
> arbitrary
> expansion of the "services" (aka institutional venues) that we host.
>
> Here's a proposal:
>
> Step 1, Immediately put a moratorium on creating any more ag1 spaces.
>
> Step 2, Immediately, turn off any new registrations for our ag1 bridge.
>
> Step 3, Start an email, testing, and publicity campaign with the 2.2.
> release that informs the community of the impending shutdown of the AG1
> infrastructure.
>
> Step 4, Labor Day: turn off ag1 institutional venues, they're 
> available via
> ag2
>
> Step 5, Dec 1: Turn off the rest of the AG1 venues and the bridge 
> server for
> it.
>
> --Ivan
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-ag-dev at mcs.anl.gov
>> [mailto:owner-ag-dev at mcs.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens
>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 10:25 AM
>> To: Robert Olson
>> Cc: Mary Fritsch; ag-dev at mcs.anl.gov
>> Subject: Re: virtual venues - institution roms
>>
>> right..
>>
>> we need to get folks off the AG1 stuff soon
>>
>> Mary how many events are still being hosting on AG1 venues ?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, Robert Olson wrote:
>>
>>> The issue at hand here is the venues that we are hosting for folks
>>> that are mirrored both on the original ag1 server and the agt
>>> transitional venue server.
>>>
>>> Your concern I think is handled by the AG2 venue mgmt stuff.
>>>
>>> --bob
>>>
>>> At 09:35 AM 4/12/2004, Rick Stevens wrote:
>>>> We want these to be very easy for folks to make..
>> ultimately we want
>>>> them like web sites that people can build to be very complex
>>>> collections of resources..
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 12 Apr 2004,
>>>> Robert Olson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have been putting off the creation of new venues
>> since there's
>>>>> so much other stuff going on at the moment. My main problem is
>>>>> keeping track of
>>>> the
>>>>> incoming requests;  I've considered a web form for that but in
>>>>> some sense want to make folks to a little more effort
>> to request one.
>>>>>
>>>>> --bob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 09:39 PM 4/10/2004, Mary Fritsch wrote:
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think I need to understand the current process of adding
>>>>>> Institution Venues to the AG.  Many of these have
>> dropped through
>>>>>> the cracks or been incorporated on one side (1.x
>> server) and not
>>>>>> the other (2.x) through no one person's fault really.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know the question of these rooms is still in the
>> air, but after
>>>> taking a
>>>>>> survey of venues used, ,many meetings use an
>> institution room or
>>>>>> a NCSA venue at this point.  In fact, I have no
>> reservations on
>>>>>> the ANL side at all except for Kentucky's recurring meeting
>>>>>> (which they are moving to
>>>> NCSA
>>>>>> site).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can we discuss the correct process to requesting an
>> institution
>>>>>> room, so that we don't get multiple emails re-posting
>> these types of requests?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, my current ANL venue reservation has failed.  I
>> made a few
>>>>>> changes to it.  I removed the choice of Secure Room, it seems
>>>>>> that combining 1.x and 2.x secure rooms are a little
>> complicated.
>>>>>> When I can chat with Bob about replacing the script on
>> this, that might change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> . mary fritsch . futures lab . mcs . argonne national
>> lab . 630 252 5297 .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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