Tuesday, July 8, 2003

Mary Fritsch fritsch at mcs.anl.gov
Thu Jul 10 13:38:44 CDT 2003


____________________ATTENDEES, STATUS, QUESTIONS


 >>GENERAL NOTES
Almost everyone used 2.0 to test today which is great.  However, we are 
repeating the same players.  We need a pitch to get brand new 2.0 users out 
there.

When hitting the heart of the meeting, I realized that the chat room 
limitations of having no directional function (to direct your line of chat 
to someone) could really be a pain in a fast-paced, formal 
meeting.  Obviously the work around is to simply type the person's name or 
company first.  Also, I think it is important to realize a big issue 
cropping up - 1.0, 2.0 and IGChat (insors chat) chat applications are 
completely incompatible.  Folks from 2.0 to 1.0 cannot talk unless both 
parties open a tkmoo and already have a mud name.... folks from IGChat can 
only talk to other insors users unless they launch separately tkmoo and 
have mud characters.  It is starting to be a problem with communication in 
the balance of meetings with multiple AG platforms... since backchannels 
are key.

After playing with Shared Presentation app, it was realized that many 
things make it break.  However, it seems a few rollout of this app is 
planned for the near future.  Playing with this app continued from all the 
different sites in the meeting.  Using a cryptic command window for the 
interface is definitely not assumed by new users.  The command window 
interface rarely even has a flashing cursor to let you know this is how you 
manipulate slide changes.  It is also common practice to simply hit page up 
and down in reg ppt.  This actually reloads the ppt over and over with 
Shared Presentation.

Another point, if anyone that is joined in a Shared Presentation session 
happens to type quit in this command window... ppts across the board close 
down as well.  Several folks tried loading new presentations and 
joining/rejoining. It seems everyone that loads the Shared Presentation 
software has to replace their mailcap file with a working one (found in the 
ANL venue under data).  Also it needs to be placed in c:\Documents and 
Settings\Application Data\Access Grid\.  This has been a source of problems 
for new users, as they get a "No Client Found... " error typically.

Two frustrating slide show view issues remain.  In the Shared Presentation 
app you simply "join" the ppt that is currently loaded.  If you join after 
any "n" next or "p" previous commands are typed by any of the users in the 
meeting, you are basically "out of sync".  The mastering site or anyone in 
the meeting needs to type goto (page#) to resync everyone to the right, 
current page.  Also, when saving your presentation if you do not setup the 
slide view as "browse by individual" before you load it into this 
application, it is projected over an entire projection screen and all your 
video streams disappear (much like a typical slide show).  This cannot be 
changed on the fly without fixing and reloading and rejoining the presentation.

I worked with Jennifer last week and she has typed up instructions for the 
Shared Browser and Presentation including the work arounds that exist 
currently.

The changes from AG 2.0 to 2.1 were discussed.  They should include 
integrated bridging and certificate management, shared ppt rollout 
supported, etc.

Bob Olson has been working on server stability and things have been stable 
for over a week.

 >>ANL (Tom Uram, Eric Olson, Mary Fritsch)
All systems working well here in Library node.  Server stable throughout 
the meeting.  Questions from each site requested, then some Shared 
Presentation testing followed.

 >>ANL West (Jeff Schibonski)
Up and running 2.0..

 >>ARSC/UAF (Paul Mercer)
Up and running 2.0..
Needed some info on getting Shared Presentation working on his machine.

NCSA (Shawn Davis, Mike Miller)
Up and running 2.0..
Shawn emailed some code for venue client, enabling it to be launched to a 
web browser.  Tom and Shawn discussed and looked through code a bit during 
the meeting as Shawn's last day on this project and at NCSA was yesterday.

BU (Jennifer Teig von Hoffman)
Up and running 2.0..

LBNL (Lloyd Belknap, Mike Elmore)
Up and running 2.0..

NCAR (Darin Oman)
Up and running 2.0..



Mary




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