[petsc-users] Correlation between da_refine and pg_mg_levels

Justin Chang jychang48 at gmail.com
Sun Apr 2 09:25:58 CDT 2017


Thanks guys,

So I want to run SNES ex48 across 1032 processes on Edison, but I keep
getting segmentation violations. These are the parameters I am trying:

srun -n 1032 -c 2 ./ex48 -M 80 -N 80 -P 9 -da_refine 1 -pc_type mg
-thi_mat_type baij -mg_coarse_pc_type gamg

The above works perfectly fine if I used 96 processes. I also tried to use
a finer coarse mesh on 1032 but the error persists.

Any ideas why this is happening? What are the ideal parameters to use if I
want to use 1k+ cores?

Thanks,
Justin

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:

>
> > On Mar 31, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Jed Brown <jed at jedbrown.org> wrote:
> >
> > Justin Chang <jychang48 at gmail.com> writes:
> >
> >> Yeah based on my experiments it seems setting pc_mg_levels to $DAREFINE
> + 1
> >> has decent performance.
> >>
> >> 1) is there ever a case where you'd want $MGLEVELS <= $DAREFINE? In
> some of
> >> the PETSc tutorial slides (e.g., http://www.mcs.anl.gov/
> >> petsc/documentation/tutorials/TutorialCEMRACS2016.pdf on slide 203/227)
> >> they say to use $MGLEVELS = 4 and $DAREFINE = 5, but when I ran this, it
> >> was almost twice as slow as if $MGLEVELS >= $DAREFINE
> >
> > Smaller coarse grids are generally more scalable -- when the problem
> > data is distributed, multigrid is a good solution algorithm.  But if
> > multigrid stops being effective because it is not preserving sufficient
> > coarse grid accuracy (e.g., for transport-dominated problems in
> > complicated domains) then you might want to stop early and use a more
> > robust method (like direct solves).
>
> Basically for symmetric positive definite operators you can make the
> coarse problem as small as you like (even 1 point) in theory. For
> indefinite and non-symmetric problems the theory says the "coarse grid must
> be sufficiently fine" (loosely speaking the coarse grid has to resolve the
> eigenmodes for the eigenvalues to the left of the x = 0).
>
> https://www.jstor.org/stable/2158375?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
>
>
>
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