[Nek5000-users] Primer for reacting flows

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Fri Jul 29 12:08:45 CDT 2011


Mike, I don't know. Contact me off list to discuss the details.
-Stefan

On 7/29/11, nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov
<nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
> Stefan, Josh, Dave,  thanks for the responses.
>
> Dave -- pointing me to the shear4 example and sending the files was helpful.
>  Thanks!
>
> Stefan, I might be able to pull of what I need to do now with the
> current-version passive-scalar features.  That said, coupling nek with CVODE
> is quite appealing.   Are there any plans for your reactive-flow plug-in to
> be available publicly?
>
> --Mike
>
> On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:55 AM, <nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
>
>> My thesis is probably a good point to start :)
>> http://e-collection.library.ethz.ch/view/eth:1899
>>
>> -Stefan
>>
>> On 7/29/11, nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov
>> <nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
>>> Hi Stefan,
>>>
>>> Reactive flows are something my group is also wanting to look at
>>> possibly in the near future.  I know you said the plug-in is not
>>> available, but was a paper produced from the work?  I thought it might
>>> be interesting  (and informative) to read the paper if it exists.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:42 AM,  <nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>
>>>> The base version of Nek is not ready to simulate chemically reacting
>>>> flows. What are the fits and gaps?
>>>>
>>>> Fits:
>>>> - Low Mach number formulation to deal with density varying flows
>>>> - Accurate splitting formulation to segregate the hydrodynamic
>>>> sub-system (momentum+continuity eqn) and the thermochemical sub-system
>>>> (energy and species eqn)
>>>> - Interface to CVODE (a high order integrator to solve the stiff
>>>> thermochemical sub system efficiently)
>>>>
>>>> Gaps:
>>>> - Routine to compute the RHS (needed input for CVODE)
>>>> - The routine to compute the thermal divergence does not include the
>>>> species eqns
>>>> - Routines to compute the thermophysical and kinetic properties
>>>>
>>>> I developed a plug-in to do reactive DNS using Nek  when I was a PhD
>>>> student at ETH Zurich. It performed really well and we did some pretty
>>>> impressive simulations at the time
>>>> (http://nek5000.mcs.anl.gov/index.php/Visualization_Gallery). I am
>>>> afraid the plug-in is not available for the public :(
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Stefan
>>>>
>>>> On 7/28/11, nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov
>>>> <nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are the .rea and .usr files of a case I did with 2 reacting
>>>>> scalars.
>>>>> The files are modified versions of the rayleigh case from repo that
>>>>> simulates the Boussinesq equations, but I turned off the buoyancy term
>>>>> and
>>>>> added a second scalar with reaction.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the userq routine in the .usr file, the qvol term specifies scalar
>>>>> production due to reaction.  The first scalar is called temp.  The next
>>>>> ones
>>>>> are ps(1), ps(2), etc.  The conditional statement (ifield.eq.2)
>>>>> specifies
>>>>> production of temp, the (ifield.eq.3) statement specifies production of
>>>>> ps(1).
>>>>>
>>>>> The README of the shear4 example from repo, which has 4 passive
>>>>> scalars,
>>>>> describes how you can change the parameters relating to the multiple
>>>>> scalars.
>>>>>
>>>>> hth,
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 2:57 PM, <nek5000-users at lists.mcs.anl.gov>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm interested in using Nek for simulation of reacting flows.  Can
>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>> send me, or point me towards, a simple example that could get me
>>>>>> going?
>>>>>>  I
>>>>>> guess I'm most interested to see the details of storage/operation with
>>>>>> passive scalars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> --Mike
>>>>>>
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