[POOL] Game On!

Robert Jacob jacob at mcs.anl.gov
Wed Oct 3 12:13:05 CDT 2012


How did we do the previous week?  I lost 4-0 in the first game then took 
off as John was starting to play.

Rob


On 10/3/12 11:46 AM, Paul M. Rich wrote:
> Roger lost his third match.  Craig won 3 in a row against Gene "The
> Machine" in his 3:2.  Adam had a 3:2 against Amanda. Both had issues
> shooting, and Amanda kept leaving Adam poor shots leading to a 2:1
> loss.  I was present but didn't shoot.
>
> Paul Rich
> Software Development Specialist
> ALCF Operations -- AIG
> richp at alcf.anl.gov
>
> On 10/3/12 11:32 , John Valdes wrote:
>>> By the rules thy were entitled to two forfeits.
>> Actually, according the printed/pdf copy of the rules (which may or
>> may not be up to date,
>> https://blogs.anl.gov/billiards/files/2011/08/APL_Rules.pdf) they
>> could claim all 5 matches if they wanted (§3.12 Foreits, Late Start):
>>
>>    Late Start. Match play should begin promptly at 6 pm. A team match
>>    will result in a forfeit if the first match has not started by 6:15
>>    pm. If a team shows up later, it is entirely up to the
>>    non-forfeiting team to: take all 5 points (for a night forfeit), or
>>    take 1 point (for a match forfeit due to tardiness), or to go ahead
>>    and play all 5 matches for the night.
>>
>> The next sentence goes on to say:
>>
>>    [...] there should be some leniency. You joined to play pool, not to
>>    receive forfeits.
>>
>> Most teams opt for the last option, go ahead and play all 5 matches.
>>
>>> They had a fifth player, but I think didn't want to have to stay that late.
>> He could have played earlier, or started a match on the practice table
>> or rescheduled.  Like the sentence above says, he joined to play
>> pool.  The forfeit was called at 9:00 PM (or at least that's when the
>> email about it went out), but there were still 2 hrs left for the
>> night ("official" hours for play are 6:00 PM - 11:00 PM); we could
>> make an argument that their 5th refused to play:
>>
>>    Opponent Refuses to Play. If the opposing team’s last player is
>>    present but (for whatever reason) they do not wish to shoot, and
>>    your team’s last player is also present and is willing to play -
>>    your team will receive a forfeit point.
>>
>> The late start rule would probably take priority in this case, but if
>> we're going to start watching the clock, we could argue that each team
>> must have players available to play at any time during the hours of
>> play.
>>
>> Anyway, despite the length of this email, it's just one loss, not a
>> big deal, just ... disappointing.  In the first week, we waited over
>> 45 min for our opponent's (Retarded Monkeys) 5th to show up, and when
>> he did, we played; we didn't call a forfeit, and that was close to
>> 10:00 PM, iirc.  The lesson I guess is that we need to have someone
>> present and ready to play at 6:00 PM each week.
>>
>> How'd we do in the matches that were played?  I played Brian in the
>> first match in a 3:3 and won 3:1.  Roger was in a 2:2 against Cheryl
>> and won the first but lost the second by the time I had to leave.
>>
>> John
>
>


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