[POOL] Game On!

Paul M. Rich richp at alcf.anl.gov
Wed Oct 3 11:46:12 CDT 2012


Roger lost his third match.  Craig won 3 in a row against Gene "The
Machine" in his 3:2.  Adam had a 3:2 against Amanda. Both had issues
shooting, and Amanda kept leaving Adam poor shots leading to a 2:1
loss.  I was present but didn't shoot.

Paul Rich
Software Development Specialist
ALCF Operations -- AIG
richp at alcf.anl.gov

On 10/3/12 11:32 , John Valdes wrote:
>> By the rules thy were entitled to two forfeits.
> Actually, according the printed/pdf copy of the rules (which may or
> may not be up to date,
> https://blogs.anl.gov/billiards/files/2011/08/APL_Rules.pdf) they
> could claim all 5 matches if they wanted (§3.12 Foreits, Late Start):
>
>   Late Start. Match play should begin promptly at 6 pm. A team match
>   will result in a forfeit if the first match has not started by 6:15
>   pm. If a team shows up later, it is entirely up to the
>   non-forfeiting team to: take all 5 points (for a night forfeit), or
>   take 1 point (for a match forfeit due to tardiness), or to go ahead
>   and play all 5 matches for the night.
>
> The next sentence goes on to say:
>
>   [...] there should be some leniency. You joined to play pool, not to
>   receive forfeits.
>
> Most teams opt for the last option, go ahead and play all 5 matches.
>
>> They had a fifth player, but I think didn't want to have to stay that late.
> He could have played earlier, or started a match on the practice table
> or rescheduled.  Like the sentence above says, he joined to play
> pool.  The forfeit was called at 9:00 PM (or at least that's when the
> email about it went out), but there were still 2 hrs left for the
> night ("official" hours for play are 6:00 PM - 11:00 PM); we could
> make an argument that their 5th refused to play:
>
>   Opponent Refuses to Play. If the opposing team’s last player is
>   present but (for whatever reason) they do not wish to shoot, and
>   your team’s last player is also present and is willing to play -
>   your team will receive a forfeit point.
>
> The late start rule would probably take priority in this case, but if
> we're going to start watching the clock, we could argue that each team
> must have players available to play at any time during the hours of
> play.
>
> Anyway, despite the length of this email, it's just one loss, not a
> big deal, just ... disappointing.  In the first week, we waited over
> 45 min for our opponent's (Retarded Monkeys) 5th to show up, and when
> he did, we played; we didn't call a forfeit, and that was close to
> 10:00 PM, iirc.  The lesson I guess is that we need to have someone
> present and ready to play at 6:00 PM each week.
>
> How'd we do in the matches that were played?  I played Brian in the
> first match in a 3:3 and won 3:1.  Roger was in a 2:2 against Cheryl
> and won the first but lost the second by the time I had to leave.
>
> John


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