[Swift-devel] Re: catsn on beagle
Jonathan S Monette
jonmon at utexas.edu
Sun Jun 5 13:35:22 CDT 2011
I still have problems running this script. I does not seem to ever execute.
I get this to stdout
Swift svn swift-r4252 (swift modified locally) cog-r3088 (cog modified
locally)
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I had to C-c the run. I would check qstat and it would say the job was
executing in the development queue but it seems like it never ran. Also it
seems that the coasters job was cancelled twice during the Swift execution.
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Jonathan S Monette <jonmon at utexas.edu>wrote:
> Ok. Thanks. and the (none) also appeared when I was on
> login1.beagle.ci.uchicago.edu. Thanks Ketan.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:09 PM, ketan <ketancmaheshwari at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, you should bring this to the attention of beagle sysadmins.
>>
>>
>> On 6/4/11 1:01 PM, Jonathan S Monette wrote:
>>
>> Ok. I have my job submitted and it is currently waiting in the queue.
>> besides manually resetting this variable everytime I am on beagle what else
>> can be done? Is this something that I should bring to the attention of the
>> sys admins for beagle?
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Ketan Maheshwari <
>> ketancmaheshwari at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Alright, so this is the issue. GLOBUS_HOSTNAME is picked up from HOSTNAME
>>> and I do not know where does this none comes in your case.
>>>
>>> In my case I get hostname: login2.beagle.ci.uchicago.edu
>>>
>>> see if you can manually change this env variable and try to run again.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Jonathan S Monette <jonmon at utexas.edu>wrote:
>>>
>>>> login2.beagle.ci.uchicago.edu.(none)
>>>>
>>>> when you ran your test was in on login1 or login2?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Ketan Maheshwari <
>>>> ketancmaheshwari at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What does
>>>>>
>>>>> echo $HOSTNAME give?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Jonathan S Monette <jonmon at utexas.edu
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not sure why that (none) appears. Is this a variable that the
>>>>>> system sets or do I need to set it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Ketan Maheshwari <
>>>>>> ketancmaheshwari at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This suprises me because, I do not see that (none) in my commandline.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Jonathan S Monette <
>>>>>>> jonmon at utexas.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I added
>>>>>>>> echo ${OPTIONS}
>>>>>>>> echo ${COG_OPTS}
>>>>>>>> echo ${LOCALCLASSPATH}
>>>>>>>> echo ${EXEC}
>>>>>>>> echo ${CMDLINE}
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to the script. It seems in the $OPTIONS variable this appears.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Xmx8192M
>>>>>>>> -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/home/jonmon/Library/Swift/swift-0.92/bin/../lib/endorsed
>>>>>>>> -DUID=1881 -DGLOBUS_HOSTNAME=login2.beagle.ci.uchicago.edu.(none)
>>>>>>>> -DCOG_INSTALL_PATH=/home/jonmon/Library/Swift/swift-0.92/bin/..
>>>>>>>> -Dswift.home=/home/jonmon/Library/Swift/swift-0.92/bin/..
>>>>>>>> -Djava.security.egd=file:///dev/urandom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is the line
>>>>>>>> DGLOBUS_HOSTNAME=login2.beagle.ci.uchicago.edu.(none) I believe that is the
>>>>>>>> parenthesis that is causing this to fail. Now How do I fix it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Jonathan S Monette <
>>>>>>>> jonmon at utexas.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I may have found the error. I download 0.92 binaries and changed
>>>>>>>>> the swift command script. I added
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Jonathan S Monette <
>>>>>>>>> jonmon at utexas.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Same result. Same error
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:24 PM, ketan <
>>>>>>>>>> ketancmaheshwari at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> can you try running the commandline by copying from run.sh and
>>>>>>>>>>> pasting it at the prompt.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/11 12:18 PM, Jonathan S Monette wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I do have that project. I did projects --avail and got back
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Project PI Title
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> CI-CCR000013 Michael Wilde The Swift Parallel Scripting
>>>>>>>>>>> System
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is my run.sh file. I execute with ./run.sh after I did
>>>>>>>>>>> chmod +x run.sh
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> #!/bin/bash
>>>>>>>>>>> swift -config cf -tc.file tc -sites.file beagle-coaster.xml
>>>>>>>>>>> catsn.swift -n=1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I do have sh and cat in my path. I can execute them. Here is
>>>>>>>>>>> what which sh and which cat produced.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sh is /usr/bin/sh
>>>>>>>>>>> cat is /bin/cat
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:10 PM, ketan <
>>>>>>>>>>> ketancmaheshwari at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you try "projects --avail" command on beagle to see if you
>>>>>>>>>>>> are member of a project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Else you will need to request membership. You can do this from
>>>>>>>>>>>> this page:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://pads.ci.uchicago.edu/access/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In any case, your error does not seem to be because of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> above. Looks like '(' has sneaked in because of some unexpected typo in
>>>>>>>>>>>> commandline .. can you doublecheck it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also can you make sure that you have all the files: tc,
>>>>>>>>>>>> beagle-coasters.xml cf in PATH, ie. are you able to access them w/o ./
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/11 12:03 PM, Jonathan S Monette wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I did change the work directory. I however did not change the
>>>>>>>>>>>> project name. I do not know my project name so I kept the same project that
>>>>>>>>>>>> was in there. Here is my modified beagle-coasters.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <config>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <pool handle="pbs">
>>>>>>>>>>>> <execution provider="coaster" jobmanager="local:pbs"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <profile namespace="globus"
>>>>>>>>>>>> key="project">CI-CCR000013</profile>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <profile namespace="globus"
>>>>>>>>>>>> key="ppn">24:cray:pack</profile>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <profile namespace="globus"
>>>>>>>>>>>> key="workersPerNode">24</profile>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <profile namespace="globus" key="maxTime">1000</profile>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <profile namespace="globus" key="slots">1</profile>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <profile namespace="globus"
>>>>>>>>>>>> key="nodeGranularity">1</profile>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <profile namespace="globus" key="maxNodes">1</profile>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <profile namespace="karajan"
>>>>>>>>>>>> key="jobThrottle">.63</profile>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <profile namespace="karajan"
>>>>>>>>>>>> key="initialScore">10000</profile>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <filesystem provider="local"/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <workdirectory
>>>>>>>>>>>> >/lustre/beagle/jonmon/Swift/work</workdirectory>
>>>>>>>>>>>> </pool>
>>>>>>>>>>>> </config>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Ketan Maheshwari <
>>>>>>>>>>>> ketancmaheshwari at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for trying out catsn on Beagle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just tried it myself but could not reproduce the error you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are getting. Have you made the changes that are mentioned in the README:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Change workdir location in beagle-coaster.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Change the project entry in the beagle-coaster.xml to your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project name
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ketan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Jonathan S Monette <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jonmon at utexas.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am trying to run the catsn test on beagle using the files
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in ~ketan/catsn. I have copied over this directory over to my home
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directory and I believe I set it up correctly. I did module load swift and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ran run.sh that was in this directory. I get this error.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /soft/swift/0.92/bin/swift: eval: line 152: syntax error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> near unexpected token `('
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /soft/swift/0.92/bin/swift: eval: line 152: `java -Xmx8192M
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/endorsed -DUID=1881
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -DGLOBUS_HOSTNAME=login2.beagle.ci.uchicago.edu.(none)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -DCOG_INSTALL_PATH=/soft/swift/0.92/bin/..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Dswift.home=/soft/swift/0.92/bin/.. -Djava.security.egd=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file:///dev/urandom -classpath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /soft/swift/0.92/bin/../etc:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../libexec:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/addressing-1.0.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/ant.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/antlr-2.7.5.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/axis.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/axis-url.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/backport-util-concurrent.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/castor-0.9.6.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/coaster-bootstrap.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cog-abstraction-common-2.4.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cog-axis.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cog-grapheditor-0.47.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cog-jglobus-1.7.0.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cog-karajan-0.36-dev.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cog-provider-clref-gt4_0_0.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cog-provider-coaster-0.3.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cog-provider-dcache-0.1.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cog-provider-gt2-2.4.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cog-provider-gt4_0_0-2.5.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cog-pro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vider-local-2.2.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cog-provider-localscheduler-0.4.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cog-provider-ssh-2.4.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cog-provider-webdav-2.1.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cog-resources-1.0.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cog-swift-svn.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cog-trap-1.0.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cog-url.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cog-util-0.92.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/commonj.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/commons-beanutils.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/commons-collections-3.0.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/commons-digester.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/commons-discovery.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/commons-httpclient.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/commons-logging-1.1.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/concurrent.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cryptix32.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cryptix-asn1.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/cryptix.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/globus_delegation_servic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/globus_delegation_stubs.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/globus_wsrf_mds_aggregator_stubs.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/globus_wsrf_rendezvous_service.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/globus_wsrf_rendezvous_stubs.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/globus_wsrf_rft_stubs.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/gram-client.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/gram-stubs.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/gram-utils.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/j2ssh-common-0.2.2.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/j2ssh-core-0.2.2-patch-b.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/jakarta-regexp-1.2.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/jakarta-slide-webdavlib-2.0.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/jaxrpc.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/jce-jdk13-131.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/jgss.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/jline-0.9.94.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/jsr173_1.0_api.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/jug-lgpl-2.0.0.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/junit.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/log4j-1.2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .8.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/naming-common.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/naming-factory.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/naming-java.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/naming-resources.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/opensaml.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/puretls.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/resolver.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/saaj.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/stringtemplate.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/vdldefinitions.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/wsdl4j.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/wsrf_core.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/wsrf_core_stubs.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/wsrf_mds_index_stubs.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/wsrf_mds_usefulrp_schema_stubs.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/wsrf_provider_jce.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/wsrf_tools.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/wss4j.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/xalan.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/xbean.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/xbean_xpath.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/xercesImpl.jar:/soft
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /swift/0.92/bin/../lib/xml-apis.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/xmlsec.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/xpp3-1.1.3.4d_b4_min.jar:/soft/swift/0.92/bin/../lib/xstream-1.1.1-patched.jar:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.griphyn.vdl.karajan.Loader '-config' 'cf' '-tc.file' 'tc' '-sites.file'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'beagle-coaster.xml' 'catsn.swift' '-n=1''
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I there something else I need to load on beagle to make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swift run accordingly?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opposite direction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex...
>>>>>>>>>>>> It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite
>>>>>>>>>>>> direction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex...
>>>>>>>>>>> It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite
>>>>>>>>>>> direction.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It
>>>>>>>>>> takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite
>>>>>>>>>> direction.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It
>>>>>>>>> takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite
>>>>>>>>> direction.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It
>>>>>>>> takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite
>>>>>>>> direction.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It
>>>>>> takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite
>>>>>> direction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Albert Einstein
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes
>>>> a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
>>>>
>>>> - Albert Einstein
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
>> touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
>>
>> - Albert Einstein
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
> touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
>
> - Albert Einstein
>
>
--
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
- Albert Einstein
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