[Swift-devel] Next Swift release

Mihael Hategan hategan at mcs.anl.gov
Thu Dec 9 00:48:42 CST 2010


So I am currently of the opinion that we should first release
branches/1.0. In that process, we should try to see if we can streamline
our release process such that future releases are easier to do.

Traditionally, Ben was the one to do releases and that worked so I
didn't ask questions.

I say that because of the amount of testing that 1.0 has received.
It may be that trunk is equally stable, but the uncertainty about that
is higher, and I think that the point of having stable branches is to
reduce that uncertainty. 

There is probably going to be a conflict between stability and features
when it comes to stable branch vs. trunk, and I think that it boils down
to the weight we put on each of those qualities.

But it's ultimately up to you (plural).

Mihael

On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 14:15 -0800, Sarah Kenny wrote:
> mike wilde was suggesting that trunk and branches/1.0 are equally
> stable so he wants to do a release of what's currently in trunk (which
> means we need to branch it). the users i'm supporting only use
> branches/1.0 and have been doing so reliably for many months...the
> actual 'usability' of trunk i'm less familiar with but mike was hoping
> to put effort towards releasing that rather than spending time/effort
> on releasing branches/1.0 since it lacks many of the newer fixes and
> features. 
> 
> ~sk
> 
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Mihael Hategan <hategan at mcs.anl.gov>
> wrote:
>         I am of the opinion that if we have a choice of releasing
>         branches/1.0
>         now or releasing trunk at the end of January, we should
>         release
>         branches/1.0 now.
>         
>         Mihael
>         
>         
>         On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 14:01 -0600, Michael Wilde wrote:
>         > Im loosing track, but I thought trunk will become branch
>         0.10?
>         >
>         >
>         > I wanted to name it based on what we're trying to say to the
>         user
>         > community: this next release I feel is still pre-1.0
>         quality.  After
>         > more doc cleanup and usability cleanup and web polishing, I
>         feel we're
>         > ready to try to make a broader announcement and call it
>         1.0.  Im
>         > thinking end of this January for that.
>         >
>         >
>         > - Mike
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         ______________________________________________________________________
>         >         feel free, justin. i'm currently editing stuff that
>         i think
>         >         should go into doc for the 12/20 release (e.g.
>         describing
>         >         features that exist but aren't documented, etc.).
>         >
>         >         so, branch 1.0 will become release 0.10...seems a
>         bit
>         >         confusing to me...also considering the differences
>         between 0.9
>         >         and what we're releasing doesn't calling it 1.0 make
>         sense?
>         >         just a thought...
>         >
>         >         ~sk
>         >
>         >         On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Justin M Wozniak
>         >         <wozniak at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
>         >
>         >                 Sounds great- I was actually thinking about
>         setting up
>         >                 the branch-specific docs later this week, do
>         you
>         >                 already have a start on that?
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >                 On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Sarah Kenny wrote:
>         >
>         >                         so, my expectation for the release,
>         as we've
>         >                         discussed somewhat on the list
>         >                         already, is to put out swift 1.0 on
>         12/20
>         >                         which, as i see it,  involves
>         >                         primarily editing of the
>         documentation/web
>         >                         content more so than anything
>         >                         else since all new code (and
>         documentation
>         >                         associated with the new code)
>         >                         going into trunk is expected to be
>         in the 1.1.
>         >                         release--which hopefully we
>         >                         can have out in the next few months.
>         i'm also
>         >                         assuming we're sticking with
>         >                         the plan to allow each release to
>         have its own
>         >                         doc version along with the
>         >                         code.
>         >
>         >                         let me know if anyone thinks there
>         are other
>         >                         things that can/should go into
>         >                         the 12/20 release.
>         >
>         >                         ~sk
>         >
>         >                         On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:10 PM,
>         Michael Wilde
>         >                         <wilde at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
>         >
>         >                                 All,
>         >
>         >                                 Sarah is going to take the
>         lead in
>         >                                 producing the next Swift
>         release, and
>         >                                 will propose a release
>         definition and
>         >                                 plan. We want to have the
>         release done
>         >                                 by Dec 20.
>         >
>         >                                 - Mike
>         >
>         >
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>         >                 --
>         >                 Justin M Wozniak
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > --
>         > Michael Wilde
>         > Computation Institute, University of Chicago
>         > Mathematics and Computer Science Division
>         > Argonne National Laboratory
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