[Swift-devel] progress stats lying

Mihael Hategan hategan at mcs.anl.gov
Tue Apr 28 13:30:41 CDT 2009


On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 13:25 -0500, Glen Hocky wrote:
> Agreed. but if they are inaccurate then it is as bad as not having them 
> at all.

Maybe worse even.

> 
> Mihael Hategan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 13:05 -0500, Glen Hocky wrote:
> >   
> >> as a user, it seems very important to have accurate summary stats so you 
> >> can tell if anything is going wrong.
> >>     
> >
> > You're overgeneralizing. You can infer some things from the summary
> > stats, but many things can go wrong even though the summary stats are
> > right.
> >
> >   
> >> Mihael Hategan wrote:
> >>     
> >>> On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 07:15 +0000, Ben Clifford wrote:
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Ben Clifford wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>> A possible solution is to add another state ("Checking status" or
> >>>>>> something), that is triggered in Execute by a task completed event.
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>> r2887 adds a checking status event in execute2, right after the 
> >>>> vdl:execute call. I think that is sufficient? or are you claiming that 
> >>>> something deeper in the execute layer is delaying things?
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> It's probably better but not sufficient. With many threads there may be
> >>> delays between the vdl:execute call completing and the next thing
> >>> running may be visible.
> >>>
> >>> The problem is that swift may say that more jobs are active than known
> >>> possible, which will raise eyebrows.
> >>>
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