[Swift-devel] Re: replication vs site score

Ian Foster foster at anl.gov
Thu Apr 9 11:51:27 CDT 2009


I didn't appreciate that about Coaster. It should (IMHO) support  
static allocation, as a special case. People will clearly want that.


On Apr 9, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Ioan Raicu wrote:

> Right, Falkon supports both static and dynamic allocation of  
> resources. I believe coaster only supports dynamic allocation of  
> resources. We have lots of information under static allocation, that  
> could help scheduling, but under dynamic allocation, there is a  
> mixture of known information (the already allocated resources) and  
> the unknown (the jobs in the wait queue). In a sense, a smarter  
> scheduler could make use of at least known information, although  
> this information might frequently change, and the scheduler would  
> have to adapt frequently.
>
> Ioan
>
> Ben Clifford wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 9 Apr 2009, Ian Foster wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I wanted to point out that when we use Falkon/coasters, we have  
>>> full control
>>> over scheduling, so in that case we could in principle pre-compute  
>>> schedules.
>>>
>> Coasters as they are now are still allocated on an opportunistic  
>> basis, so
>> once we have a coaster stuff could be scheduled to it, but when  
>> coaster
>> workers actually exist is as unknown as when jobs will run in the
>> non-coaster case, I think.
>>
>> Where Falkon has been used for pre-allocated resources on machines,  
>> with
>> no dynamic allocation/unallocation, though, the available resources
>> probably are known well enough for this.
>>
>>
>>> However, in practice we still don't tend to have enough  
>>> information about
>>> execution times for this to be that useful. At least that's my  
>>> belief.
>>>
>> yes.
>>
>>
>
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