[Swift-devel] Drop kickstart, adopt wrapper logs?

[Michael Wilde]

Im not aware of any work done in that direction.
I would have to hunt back through emails for the last thing we said we 
would do.

Its been an often discussed topic, but one thats hard to move forward on.

The tradeoff is doing something that works well for swift, vs having a 
significantly larger and longer discussion on what would work for GRAM 
as well (and potentially Condor and ...)

One possibility is that we stay with a kickstart like architecture where 
kickstart is the last thing called to launch the app, and that becomes a 
separable component that can be used elsewhere. We do it in a way that 
its useful with GRAM and other systems, and which users can just use.

Then the discussion becomes mostly one of data format.
There the two likely candidates are XML or name/value pairs, possibly in 
some other "standard" format, eg classads.

Another possibility is to emit an xml doc in a rigid format that doesnt 
need an xml parser to process it - sort of n/v pairs in xml. This gets 
complicated with multiline and escape issues of course.

Its worth a chat with the GRAM team.  It will be a slower harder route 
though.  Thats a tradeoff.

- Mike


On 7/25/08 8:01 AM, Ian Foster wrote:
> Mike:
> 
> What is the status of the integration into kickstart into the Globus 
> release?
> 
> Ian.
> 
> 
> On Jul 25, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Michael Wilde wrote:
> 
>> was: Re: Can we copy Swift execution logs to CI network?
>>
>> Should we make this transition, dropping kickstart, and making the 
>> wrapper log a useful format that becomes part of the Swift runtime 
>> specification?
>>
>> On 7/15/08 4:18 PM, Ben Clifford wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> ...there's substantial lack of information
>>> for many runs as we have been tweaking the logs over time (especially 
>>> the worker node logs which take a similar place to kickstart records 
>>> now - giving the actual on-worker cpu usage but are relatively very 
>>> expensive to collect and move around).
>>
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