[Swift-devel] Re: Kickstart

[Mihael Hategan]

That doesn't sound quite right. I somewhat doubt a logging format will
get wide adoption if it does not adapt to the realities of the software
it tries to service. Perhaps there is a way to reconcile things?

Mihael

On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 21:43 -0700, Dan Gunter wrote:
> Newlines would be replaced with some other allowed character(s).
> 
> -Dan
> 
> Mihael Hategan wrote:
> > So how would a java exception (being a multi-line thing) be logged in
> > this format?
> >
> > Mihael
> >
> > On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 16:35 -0500, Michael Wilde wrote:
> >   
> >> Dan, sounds good.  As a GRAM and GridFTP client (using CoG interfaces) 
> >> how would Swift (or Karajan, which Swift calls) insert these identifiers?
> >>
> >> (I'll step aside and let Mihael pick the discussion up with you when 
> >> time permits - he's the developer of all layers of code involved from 
> >> CoG up, and would know all the details).
> >>
> >> - Mike
> >>
> >>
> >> Dan Gunter wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> We (CEDPS) have prototype code to load logs, using a simple mapping of
> >>> one event type to one table, into a relational DB (MySQL, Postgres,
> >>> SQLite). We could use this as a starting point for some of the analysis.
> >>>
> >>> One of the issues that comes up immediately is how to know which events
> >>> belong to which workflow. Any help kickstart could provide w.r.t.
> >>> inserting common identifiers would ease the correlation task down the line..
> >>>
> >>> -Dan
> >>>
> >>> Michael Wilde wrote:
> >>>       
> >>>> Hi Brian,
> >>>>
> >>>> Lets continue this informally in email. Perhaps Ben (Swift Tech
> >>>> Coordinator) can join one of the calls.
> >>>>
> >>>> It will be pretty simple to get kickstart data in the right form.
> >>>>
> >>>> But an intersting and perhaps valuable (dare I say exciting?) demo of
> >>>> logging would be to do a multi-site workflow, and correlate all he
> >>>> logs from GRAM, GridFTP, and Swift, into a meaningful ans useful
> >>>> stream; then do queries/reports on that stream.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm cc'ing the Swift devel list to encourage discussion, but I think
> >>>> we can make small continuos steps in this direction and make something
> >>>> interesting happen pretty readily.
> >>>>
> >>>> What would we need to do to get CEDPS-conformant logging from GRAM &
> >>>> GridFTP at the sites we frequent? (the CI's TeraPort, uc-teragrid, and
> >>>> tg sites at ncsa, sdsc, purdue, tacc, perhaps a few more?)  Plus OSG
> >>>> sites as we start using them more?
> >>>>
> >>>> - Mike
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Brian Tierney wrote:
> >>>>         
> >>>>> Mike:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> After reading the Kickstart paper, I think there are several possible
> >>>>> areas of collaboration with CEDPS.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do you want to talk about this on one of the CEDPS calls, or perhaps
> >>>>> better would be to discuss this in person when we are at ANL for the
> >>>>> CEDPS meeting at the end of October.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>           
> >>>       
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