[petsc-users] [petsc4py] DMPlex and DT class

Valerio Barnabei valerio.barnabei at uniroma1.it
Wed May 30 04:45:33 CDT 2018


Hello again,
I have a few questions about DT and DMPlex in general, not exclusively
related to petsc4py implementation: in fact at the current state of my
project, which is still being set up, I can choose either to program with
C++ or python.

-So far, we used PETSc indirectly through libmesh interface. We have a
fully working FEM code for FSI problems, and that's our starting point for
further research. We're currently interested in developing our own,
lighter, simpler interface for the same class of problems, by simply
cutting out libmesh, and directly accessing to PETSc. We are strongly
determined to implement the "space-time variational formulation of
incompressible flows" by Tezduyar and Takizawa (eventually you can find
theory informations in
https://www.worldscientific.com/doi/abs/10.1142/S0218202512300013). In this
approach the 3D problem becomes a 4D problem including the time dimension,
as well discretized with it's own temporal basis functions, resulting in a
sequence of time slabs (spatial meshes of a space-time slab is the deformed
versions of each other). Unfortunately, as I already mentioned, I'm not
quite confident with DT and DMPlex, and even reading examples has not
helped my understanding.
Do you think DT and DMPlex can handle this kind of 4D representation, or do
you think this is incompatible with the current state of that classes?

-If DMPlex and DT could handle the above mentioned model, do you think we
could get any help in implementing the python interface for petsc4py?

-If DMPlex and DT could NOT handle the above mentioned model, do you think
they can be adapted to achieve that purpose? If they can be adapted, is it
a huge, deep modification of those classes, to the point it is not worth
even trying?


I apologize for my verbose mail, I'm available for further explanation if
required.

Best regards,
Valerio Francesco Barnabei


2018-05-30 9:38 GMT+02:00 Valerio Barnabei <valerio.barnabei at uniroma1.it>:

> Thank you Matt,
> I've read some of your works and  I'm interested in your approach. I would
> like to keep in touch with you, both to consider the option to make python
> interfaces for DT class, and to have a deeper understanding of Sieve.
>
> Best regards,
> Valerio Francesco Barnabei
>
> Il 29 mag 2018 23:22, "Matthew Knepley" <knepley at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 1:14 PM, Valerio Barnabei <
> valerio.barnabei at uniroma1.it> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I'm trying to figure how to translate snes/ex12, snes/ex56, snes/ex62,
>> snes/ex77 in python using petsc4py. Unfortunately I'm having trouble
>> finding something analogue to the DT class of C++ PETSc, to call methods
>> like PetscFECreateDefault and similar.
>> Is this something that can be achieved using petsc4py?
>> I mean, is there something included in DM, DMDA or DMPlex that takes care
>> of the discretization of a generic value field that I'm missing? (As far as
>> I can see and understand, no DT class is implemented in petsc4py)
>> I hope i explained myself, unfortunately I'm still a new user.
>>
>
> Hi Valerio,
>
> There are no Python interfaces for DT because it is all experimental code.
> We have not yet agreed that this is
> the correct way to do things, so its all my own C experimentation. I could
> help you understand it to make Python
> interfaces if you wanted to.
>
>   Thanks,
>
>     Matt
>
>
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Valerio
>>
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