[petsc-users] Non deterministic results with MUMPS?
Smith, Barry F.
bsmith at mcs.anl.gov
Tue Mar 13 15:59:05 CDT 2018
> On Mar 13, 2018, at 1:10 PM, Tim Steinhoff <kandanovian at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your fast reply.
> I see that I can't expect the same results when changing the number of
> processes, but how does MPI change the order of operations, when there
> are for example 2 processes and the partitioning is fixed?
Hmm, how do you know the partitioning is fixed? Is there the use of a random number generator in MUMPS or the partitioning packages uses?
Barry
> With GMRES I could not prorduce that behavior, no matter how many processes.
>
> 2018-03-13 18:17 GMT+01:00 Stefano Zampini <stefano.zampini at gmail.com>:
>> This is expected. In parallel, you cannot assume the order of operations is
>> preserved
>>
>> Il 13 Mar 2018 8:14 PM, "Tim Steinhoff" <kandanovian at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I get some randomness when solving certain equation systems with MUMPS.
>>> When I repeatedly solve the attached equation system by ksp example
>>> 10, I get different solution vectors and therefore different residual
>>> norms.
>>>
>>> jac at jac-VirtualBox:~/data/rep/petsc/src/ksp/ksp/examples/tutorials$
>>> mpiexec -np 4 ./ex10 -f ./1.mat -rhs ./1.vec -ksp_type preonly
>>> -pc_type lu -pc_factor_mat_solver_package mumps
>>> Number of iterations = 1
>>> Residual norm 4.15502e-12
>>> jac at jac-VirtualBox:~/data/rep/petsc/src/ksp/ksp/examples/tutorials$
>>> mpiexec -np 4 ./ex10 -f ./1.mat -rhs ./1.vec -ksp_type preonly
>>> -pc_type lu -pc_factor_mat_solver_package mumps
>>> Number of iterations = 1
>>> Residual norm 4.15502e-12
>>> jac at jac-VirtualBox:~/data/rep/petsc/src/ksp/ksp/examples/tutorials$
>>> mpiexec -np 4 ./ex10 -f ./1.mat -rhs ./1.vec -ksp_type preonly
>>> -pc_type lu -pc_factor_mat_solver_package mumps
>>> Number of iterations = 1
>>> Residual norm 4.17364e-12
>>> jac at jac-VirtualBox:~/data/rep/petsc/src/ksp/ksp/examples/tutorials$
>>> mpiexec -np 4 ./ex10 -f ./1.mat -rhs ./1.vec -ksp_type preonly
>>> -pc_type lu -pc_factor_mat_solver_package mumps
>>> Number of iterations = 1
>>> Residual norm 4.17364e-12
>>> jac at jac-VirtualBox:~/data/rep/petsc/src/ksp/ksp/examples/tutorials$
>>> mpiexec -np 4 ./ex10 -f ./1.mat -rhs ./1.vec -ksp_type preonly
>>> -pc_type lu -pc_factor_mat_solver_package mumps
>>> Number of iterations = 1
>>> Residual norm 4.17364e-12
>>> jac at jac-VirtualBox:~/data/rep/petsc/src/ksp/ksp/examples/tutorials$
>>> mpiexec -np 4 ./ex10 -f ./1.mat -rhs ./1.vec -ksp_type preonly
>>> -pc_type lu -pc_factor_mat_solver_package mumps
>>> Number of iterations = 1
>>> Residual norm 4.15502e-12
>>> jac at jac-VirtualBox:~/data/rep/petsc/src/ksp/ksp/examples/tutorials$
>>> mpiexec -np 4 ./ex10 -f ./1.mat -rhs ./1.vec -ksp_type preonly
>>> -pc_type lu -pc_factor_mat_solver_package mumps
>>> Number of iterations = 1
>>> Residual norm 4.15502e-12
>>> jac at jac-VirtualBox:~/data/rep/petsc/src/ksp/ksp/examples/tutorials$
>>> mpiexec -np 4 ./ex10 -f ./1.mat -rhs ./1.vec -ksp_type preonly
>>> -pc_type lu -pc_factor_mat_solver_package mumps
>>> Number of iterations = 1
>>> Residual norm 4.17364e-12
>>> jac at jac-VirtualBox:~/data/rep/petsc/src/ksp/ksp/examples/tutorials$
>>> mpiexec -np 4 ./ex10 -f ./1.mat -rhs ./1.vec -ksp_type preonly
>>> -pc_type lu -pc_factor_mat_solver_package mumps
>>> Number of iterations = 1
>>> Residual norm 4.15502e-12
>>>
>>> It seems to be depending on a combination of number of processes and
>>> the equation system.
>>> I used GCC 7.2.0, Intel 16, MUMPS 5.1.1 / 5.1.2 (with & without
>>> metis/parmetis), openMPI 2.1.2. All with the same results.
>>> PETSc configuration is the current maint branch:
>>> ./configure --download-mumps --with-debugging=0 --COPTFLAGS="-O3"
>>> --CXXOPTFLAGS="-O3" --FOPTFLAGS="-O3" --with-scalapack
>>>
>>> Using "--download-fblaslapack --download-scalapack" didnt make a
>>> difference neither.
>>> Can anyone reproduce that issue?
>>>
>>> Thanks and kind regards,
>>>
>>> Volker
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