strange convergency behavior with petsc (intialy produces good result, suddenly diverges)

Barry Smith bsmith at mcs.anl.gov
Mon Aug 18 10:24:04 CDT 2008


On Aug 18, 2008, at 12:35 AM, Shengyong wrote:

> hi, Barry
>
> Thanks for your kindly reply!
>
> Here I report some experiments accoording to your hints.
>
> -pc_type sor -pc_sor_local_symmetric _ksp_type cg failed.

    What does failed mean? Converged for a while then stagnated?  
Diverged (the residual norm got larger and larger)? Never converged at  
all?
>
> icc(1) also failed.

    What does failed mean?

    I suggest running with -pc_type lu (keep the -ksp_type gmres) and  
see what happens? Does you simulation run fine for an unlimited number
of timesteps? If not, how does it fail?

    Barry

>
>
> When using -ksp_monitor_true _residual with icc(0), I have found the  
> precond residual is osillation around some value about 1.06e-004,  
> the true residual norm almost staying at 7.128 e-004.  The ||Ae||/|| 
> Ax|| also stagnent at 6.3e-005.
>
> After the maximum number of iterations (=2000) reached, the  
> iteration fails. Even when I set iteration number to 10000, it seems  
> that petsc also fails.
>
> Below is some resiual information near iteration number 2000 when  
> with ksp_monitor_true_residual.
>
>
> 1990 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.064720311837e-004 true resid  
> norm 7.1284721
> 18425e-004 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 6.302380221818e-005
>
> 1991 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.062055494352e-004 true resid  
> norm 7.1281202
> 17324e-004 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 6.302069101215e-005
>
> 1992 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.061228895583e-004 true resid  
> norm 7.1277740
> 15661e-004 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 6.301763019565e-005
>
> 1993 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.062165148129e-004 true resid  
> norm 7.1274335
> 10277e-004 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 6.301461974073e-005
>
> 1994 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.064780917764e-004 true resid  
> norm 7.1270986
> 90168e-004 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 6.301165955010e-005
>
> 1995 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.068986431546e-004 true resid  
> norm 7.1267695
> 37853e-004 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 6.300874946922e-005
>
> 1996 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.074687043135e-004 true resid  
> norm 7.1264460
> 30395e-004 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 6.300588929530e-005
>
> 1997 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.081784773720e-004 true resid  
> norm 7.1261281
> 40328e-004 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 6.300307878551e-005
>
> 1998 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.090179775109e-004 true resid  
> norm 7.1258158
> 36472e-004 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 6.300031766417e-005
>
> 1999 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.099771672684e-004 true resid  
> norm 7.1255090
> 84603e-004 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 6.299760562872e-005
>
> 2000 KSP preconditioned resid norm 1.110460758301e-004 true resid  
> norm 7.1252078
> 48108e-004 ||Ae||/||Ax|| 6.299494235544e-005
>
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov>  
> wrote:
>
>   Try using -pc_type sor -pc_sor_local_symmetric -ksp_type cg
>
>   Also try running the original icc one with the additional option - 
> ksp_monitor_true_residual, see if funky stuff starts to happen.
>
>   You could also try adding -pc_factor_levels 1 to try ICC(1)  
> instead of ICC(0).
>
>   Your code looks fine, I don't see a problem there,
>
>   Barry
>
>
>   Here is my guess, as the simulation proceeds the variable  
> coefficient problem changes enough so that the ICC produces
> a badly scaled preconditioner that messes up the iterative method. I  
> see this on occasion and don't have a good fix, the shift
> positive definite helps sometimes but not always.
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 17, 2008, at 3:36 AM, Shengyong wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am still struggling to use petsc to solve variable coefficient  
> poisson problems (which orinates from a multi-phase(liquid-gas two  
> phase flow with sharp interface method, the density ratio is 1000,  
> and with surface tension) flow problem) successively.
>
> Initially petsc produces good results with icc pc_type , cg  
> iterative method and with _pc_factor_shift_positive_define flag.  I  
> follow petsc's null space method to constrain the singular property  
> of coefficient matrix. However,  after several time steps good  
> results of simulation, the KSP Residual Norm suddenly reaches to a  
> number greater than 1000. I guess that petsc diverges. I have also  
> tried to swith to other types of methods, e.g. to gmeres, it just  
> behaves similar to cg method.  However, when I use my previous self- 
> coded SOR iterative solver, it produces nice results.  And I have  
> tested the same petsc solver class for a single phase driven cavity  
> flow problem, it also produces nice results.
>
> It seems that I have missed something important setup procedure in  
> my solver class. could anyone to point me the problem ?  I have  
> attached large part of  the code  below:
>
> //in Header
> class CPETScPoissonSolver
> {
>    typedef struct {
>       Vec                  x,b;     //x, b
>       Mat                 A;       //A
>       KSP                ksp;   //Krylov subspace preconditioner
>       PC                   pc;
>       MatNullSpace  nullspace;
>       PetscInt            l, m, n;//L, M, N
>    } UserContext;
>
> public:
>    CPETScPoissonSolver(int argc, char** argv);
>    ~CPETScPoissonSolver(void);
>
>    //........
>
> private:
>
>    //Yale Sparse Matrix format matrix
>     PetscScalar*  A;
>     PetscInt     *   I;
>     PetscInt     *   J;
>
>     // Number of Nonzero Element
>     PetscInt          nnz;
>     //grid step
>     PetscInt          L, M, N;
>     UserContext    userctx;
> private:
>    bool             FirstTime;
> };
>
> //in cpp
> static char helpPetscPoisson[] = "PETSc class Solves a variable  
> Poisson problem with Null Space Method.\n\n";
>
> CPETScPoissonSolver::CPETScPoissonSolver(int argc, char** argv)
> {
>    PetscInitialize(&argc, &argv, (char*)0, helpPetscPoisson);
>    FirstTime=true;
> }
> CPETScPoissonSolver::~CPETScPoissonSolver(void)
> {
>    PetscFinalize();
> }
> ......
> void CPETScPoissonSolver::SetAIJ(PetscScalar *a, PetscInt *i,  
> PetscInt *j, PetscInt Nnz)
> {
>    A= a; I=i; J=j; nnz = Nnz;
> }
>
> PetscErrorCode CPETScPoissonSolver::UserInitializeLinearSolver()
> {
>    PetscErrorCode ierr = 0;
>    PetscInt Num = L*M*N;
>
>    //Since we use successive solvers, so in the second time step we  
> must deallocate the original matrix then setup a new one
>    if(FirstTime==true)
>    {
>        ierr = MatCreateSeqAIJWithArrays(PETSC_COMM_SELF,  Num,   
> Num,  I,  J,  A, &userctx.A); CHKERRQ(ierr);
>    }
>    else
>    {
>          FirstTime = false;
>          ierr = MatDestroy(userctx.A);CHKERRQ(ierr);
>          ierr = MatCreateSeqAIJWithArrays(PETSC_COMM_SELF,  Num,   
> Num,  I,  J,  A, &userctx.A); CHKERRQ(ierr);
>    }
>
>    if(FirstTime==true)
>    {
>
>        ierr =  
> VecCreateSeqWithArray 
> (PETSC_COMM_SELF,Num,PETSC_NULL,&userctx.b);CHKERRQ(ierr);
>        ierr = VecDuplicate(userctx.b,&userctx.x);CHKERRQ(ierr);
>        ierr = MatNullSpaceCreate(PETSC_COMM_SELF, PETSC_TRUE, 0,  
> PETSC_NULL, &userctx.nullspace); CHKERRQ(ierr);
>        ierr = KSPCreate(PETSC_COMM_SELF,&userctx.ksp);CHKERRQ(ierr);
>        /*Set Null Space for KSP*/
>        ierr = KSPSetNullSpace(userctx.ksp,  
> userctx.nullspace);CHKERRQ(ierr);
>    }
>    return 0;
> }
>
>
> PetscErrorCode CPETScPoissonSolver::UserSetBX(PetscScalar *x,  
> PetscScalar *b)
> {
>      PetscErrorCode ierr ;
>      //below code we must set it every time step
>      ierr = VecPlaceArray(userctx.x,x);CHKERRQ(ierr);
>      ierr = VecPlaceArray(userctx.b,b);CHKERRQ(ierr);
>      ierr =  MatNullSpaceRemove(userctx.nullspace,userctx.b,  
> PETSC_NULL);CHKERRQ(ierr);
>      return 0;
> }
>
> PetscInt CPETScPoissonSolver::UserSolve()
> {
>      PetscErrorCode ierr;
>      ierr =  
> KSPSetOperators 
> (userctx.ksp,userctx.A,userctx.A,SAME_NONZERO_PATTERN);CHKERRQ(ierr);
>      ierr = KSPSetType(userctx.ksp, KSPCG);
>      ierr = KSPSetInitialGuessNonzero(userctx.ksp, PETSC_TRUE);
>      ierr = KSPGetPC(userctx.ksp,&userctx.pc);CHKERRQ(ierr);
>      ierr = PCSetType(userctx.pc,PCICC);CHKERRQ(ierr);
>      ierr = PCFactorSetShiftPd(userctx.pc, PETSC_TRUE);
>      ierr = KSPSetTolerances(userctx.ksp, 
> 1.e-4,PETSC_DEFAULT,PETSC_DEFAULT,2000);
>      ierr = KSPSetFromOptions(userctx.ksp);CHKERRQ(ierr);
>      /* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  
> - - - -
>                          Solve the linear system
>         - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  
> - - - - */
>      ierr = KSPSolve(userctx.ksp,userctx.b,userctx.x);CHKERRQ(ierr);
>
>      ierr = VecResetArray(userctx.x);CHKERRQ(ierr);
>      ierr = VecResetArray(userctx.b);CHKERRQ(ierr);
>
>      return 0;
> }
>
> PetscErrorCode CPETScPoissonSolver::ReleaseMem()
> {
>      PetscErrorCode ierr;
>      ierr = KSPDestroy(userctx.ksp);CHKERRQ(ierr);
>      ierr = VecDestroy(userctx.x);     CHKERRQ(ierr);
>      ierr = VecDestroy(userctx.b);     CHKERRQ(ierr);
>      ierr = MatDestroy(userctx.A);    CHKERRQ(ierr);
>      ierr = MatNullSpaceDestroy(userctx.nullspace); CHKERRQ(ierr);
>      return 0;
> }
>
> Thanks very much!
>
>
> -- 
> Pang Shengyong
> Solidification Simulation Lab,
> State Key Lab of Mould & Die Technology,
> Huazhong Univ. of Sci. & Tech. China
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Pang Shengyong
> Solidification Simulation Lab,
> State Key Lab of Mould & Die Technology,
> Huazhong Univ. of Sci. & Tech. China




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