[petsc-dev] Re: [petsc-maint] valgrind detected on /usr/local/include and enabled but header files from this dir are not added to build path
Åsmund Ervik
asmund.ervik at ntnu.no
Tue Oct 29 15:39:31 CDT 2013
Barry:
Re: "Nobody uses more than two $PETSC_ARCH": We have our regression tests run on a machine with 8 different ones (4 Fortran compilers each with debug and optim). This is using stable releases, but there could be people doing the same with maint I guess.
Åsmund
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1. Re: [petsc-maint] valgrind detected on /usr/local/include
and enabled but header files from this dir are not added to build
path (Barry Smith)
2. Re: [petsc-maint] valgrind detected on /usr/local/include
and enabled but header files from this dir are not added to build
path (Jed Brown)
3. Re: [petsc-maint] valgrind detected on /usr/local/include
and enabled but header files from this dir are not added to build
path (Satish Balay)
5. Re: [petsc-maint] valgrind detected on /usr/local/include
and enabled but header files from this dir are not added to build
path (Barry Smith)
6. Re: [petsc-maint] valgrind detected on /usr/local/include
and enabled but header files from this dir are not added to build
path (Barry Smith)
7. Re: [petsc-maint] valgrind detected on /usr/local/include
and enabled but header files from this dir are not added to build
path (Jed Brown)
8. Re: [petsc-maint] valgrind detected on /usr/local/include
and enabled but header files from this dir are not added to build
path (Aron Ahmadia)
9. Re: [petsc-maint] valgrind detected on /usr/local/include
and enabled but header files from this dir are not added to build
path (Satish Balay)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:49:34 -0500
From: Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov>
To: Jed Brown <jedbrown at mcs.anl.gov>
Cc: For users of the development version of PETSc
<petsc-dev at mcs.anl.gov>
Subject: Re: [petsc-dev] [petsc-maint] valgrind detected on
/usr/local/include and enabled but header files from this dir are not
added to build path
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On Oct 29, 2013, at 9:04 AM, Jed Brown <jedbrown at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
> Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov> writes:
>> Could you please add a ?with-clean (or better name?) option to ./configure that does the $PETSC_ARCH removal business? Then we can just run
>>
>> $PETSC_ARCH/conf/reconf*.py ?with-clean
>
> I guess this also has to delete relevant parts of externalpackages to
> make sure the current version of packages get downloaded.
>
> Part of me wants to put all the externalpackages inside $PETSC_ARCH
> because the source is usually smaller than the object files or the
Or simpler just have the ?with-clean nuke external packages; makes life easy. By "store the tarballs in a common place? and SHA1 crap you are making the system more complicated to understand and maintain.
Barry
> compiled binary, so we're not saving anything by unpacking in a common
> location. We could store the tarballs in a common place and include
> their SHA1 in ${package}.py so that BuildSystem could match the correct
> tarball and unpack it cleanly.
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 12:51:57 -0600
From: Jed Brown <jedbrown at mcs.anl.gov>
To: Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov>
Cc: For users of the development version of PETSc
<petsc-dev at mcs.anl.gov>
Subject: Re: [petsc-dev] [petsc-maint] valgrind detected on
/usr/local/include and enabled but header files from this dir are not
added to build path
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Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov> writes:
> Or simpler just have the ?with-clean nuke external packages; makes
> life easy. By "store the tarballs in a common place? and SHA1 crap
> you are making the system more complicated to understand and
> maintain.
People will complain when they have to download the same tarball many
times. But I don't especially care as long as the builds are done
inside $PETSC_ARCH instead of in a common place. (This is also useful
when building multiple configurations of PETSc in parallel.)
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:59:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: Satish Balay <balay at mcs.anl.gov>
To: Jed Brown <jedbrown at mcs.anl.gov>
Cc: For users of the development version of PETSc
<petsc-dev at mcs.anl.gov>
Subject: Re: [petsc-dev] [petsc-maint] valgrind detected on
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On Tue, 29 Oct 2013, Jed Brown wrote:
> Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov> writes:
> > Or simpler just have the ?with-clean nuke external packages; makes
> > life easy. By "store the tarballs in a common place? and SHA1 crap
> > you are making the system more complicated to understand and
> > maintain.
>
> People will complain when they have to download the same tarball many
> times. But I don't especially care as long as the builds are done
> inside $PETSC_ARCH instead of in a common place. (This is also useful
> when building multiple configurations of PETSc in parallel.)
There is also the issue with git repos to deal with. [presumably the
above logic would be slightly different than the tarballs]
We [Jed and I ] also discussed having git repos and corresponding
tarballs match - and caching tarballs locally for unreliable external
sites. And then using SHA as a way of versioning to eliminate most
cases where with-clean would be needed.
Just a note: all these issues are primarily with git users - not
petsc-release/tarball users.
Satish
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:06:16 -0500
From: Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov>
To: Jed Brown <jedbrown at mcs.anl.gov>
Cc: For users of the development version of PETSc
<petsc-dev at mcs.anl.gov>
Subject: Re: [petsc-dev] [petsc-maint] valgrind detected on
/usr/local/include and enabled but header files from this dir are not
added to build path
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On Oct 29, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Jed Brown <jedbrown at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
> Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov> writes:
>> Or simpler just have the ?with-clean nuke external packages; makes
>> life easy. By "store the tarballs in a common place? and SHA1 crap
>> you are making the system more complicated to understand and
>> maintain.
>
> People will complain when they have to download the same tarball many
> times. But I don't especially care as long as the builds are done
> inside $PETSC_ARCH instead of in a common place. (This is also useful
> when building multiple configurations of PETSc in parallel.)
Besides us, hardly anyone uses more than 2 PETSC_ARCH!
So how about just moving externalpackages into $PETSC_ARCH and don?t build some elaborate scheme that reuses tar balls for a tiny number of people. In other words a clean truly means clean and gets new tar balls.
Barry
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:07:31 -0500
From: Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov>
To: petsc-dev <petsc-dev at mcs.anl.gov>
Subject: Re: [petsc-dev] [petsc-maint] valgrind detected on
/usr/local/include and enabled but header files from this dir are not
added to build path
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It is not worthy any additional logic in the already messing configure process to save a few downloads.
Barry
On Oct 29, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Satish Balay <balay at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013, Jed Brown wrote:
>
>> Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov> writes:
>>> Or simpler just have the ?with-clean nuke external packages; makes
>>> life easy. By "store the tarballs in a common place? and SHA1 crap
>>> you are making the system more complicated to understand and
>>> maintain.
>>
>> People will complain when they have to download the same tarball many
>> times. But I don't especially care as long as the builds are done
>> inside $PETSC_ARCH instead of in a common place. (This is also useful
>> when building multiple configurations of PETSc in parallel.)
>
> There is also the issue with git repos to deal with. [presumably the
> above logic would be slightly different than the tarballs]
>
> We [Jed and I ] also discussed having git repos and corresponding
> tarballs match - and caching tarballs locally for unreliable external
> sites. And then using SHA as a way of versioning to eliminate most
> cases where with-clean would be needed.
>
> Just a note: all these issues are primarily with git users - not
> petsc-release/tarball users.
>
> Satish
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:08:08 -0500
From: Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov>
To: petsc-dev <petsc-dev at mcs.anl.gov>
Subject: Re: [petsc-dev] [petsc-maint] valgrind detected on
/usr/local/include and enabled but header files from this dir are not
added to build path
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Just because you can do it doesn?t mean you should do it.
Barry
On Oct 29, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
>
> It is not worthy any additional logic in the already messing configure process to save a few downloads.
>
> Barry
>
>
> On Oct 29, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Satish Balay <balay at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013, Jed Brown wrote:
>>
>>> Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov> writes:
>>>> Or simpler just have the ?with-clean nuke external packages; makes
>>>> life easy. By "store the tarballs in a common place? and SHA1 crap
>>>> you are making the system more complicated to understand and
>>>> maintain.
>>>
>>> People will complain when they have to download the same tarball many
>>> times. But I don't especially care as long as the builds are done
>>> inside $PETSC_ARCH instead of in a common place. (This is also useful
>>> when building multiple configurations of PETSc in parallel.)
>>
>> There is also the issue with git repos to deal with. [presumably the
>> above logic would be slightly different than the tarballs]
>>
>> We [Jed and I ] also discussed having git repos and corresponding
>> tarballs match - and caching tarballs locally for unreliable external
>> sites. And then using SHA as a way of versioning to eliminate most
>> cases where with-clean would be needed.
>>
>> Just a note: all these issues are primarily with git users - not
>> petsc-release/tarball users.
>>
>> Satish
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:12:30 -0600
From: Jed Brown <jedbrown at mcs.anl.gov>
To: Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov>
Cc: For users of the development version of PETSc
<petsc-dev at mcs.anl.gov>
Subject: Re: [petsc-dev] [petsc-maint] valgrind detected on
/usr/local/include and enabled but header files from this dir are not
added to build path
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Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov> writes:
> Besides us, hardly anyone uses more than 2 PETSC_ARCH!
And here I have 60 on one machine. It might be time to clean up a
little.
> So how about just moving externalpackages into $PETSC_ARCH and
> don?t build some elaborate scheme that reuses tar balls for a tiny
> number of people. In other words a clean truly means clean and
> gets new tar balls.
That sounds good to me.
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:15:41 -0400
From: Aron Ahmadia <aron at ahmadia.net>
To: Jed Brown <jedbrown at mcs.anl.gov>
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> > So how about just moving externalpackages into $PETSC_ARCH and
> > don?t build some elaborate scheme that reuses tar balls for a tiny
> > number of people. In other words a clean truly means clean and
> > gets new tar balls.
>
> That sounds good to me.
>
I don't expect (or really want) any more complexity out of PETSc. +1 from
here.
A
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:16:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: Satish Balay <balay at mcs.anl.gov>
To: Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov>
Cc: petsc-dev <petsc-dev at mcs.anl.gov>
Subject: Re: [petsc-dev] [petsc-maint] valgrind detected on
/usr/local/include and enabled but header files from this dir are not
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I mistated one thing.
The git-url usage in pacakge.py spills over to tarball users aswell.
Now to have consistant tarballs wrt git repo - we have to migrate all
tarball urls to tarballs from the git repo hosting site. [and not host
at ftp.mcs.anl.gov]
But this is unreliable [the last I checked with elemental at github -
git failed frequently - but it was giving out taballs more reliably]
satish
On Tue, 29 Oct 2013, Barry Smith wrote:
>
> Just because you can do it doesn?t mean you should do it.
>
> Barry
>
> On Oct 29, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
>
> >
> > It is not worthy any additional logic in the already messing configure process to save a few downloads.
> >
> > Barry
> >
> >
> > On Oct 29, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Satish Balay <balay at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013, Jed Brown wrote:
> >>
> >>> Barry Smith <bsmith at mcs.anl.gov> writes:
> >>>> Or simpler just have the ?with-clean nuke external packages; makes
> >>>> life easy. By "store the tarballs in a common place? and SHA1 crap
> >>>> you are making the system more complicated to understand and
> >>>> maintain.
> >>>
> >>> People will complain when they have to download the same tarball many
> >>> times. But I don't especially care as long as the builds are done
> >>> inside $PETSC_ARCH instead of in a common place. (This is also useful
> >>> when building multiple configurations of PETSc in parallel.)
> >>
> >> There is also the issue with git repos to deal with. [presumably the
> >> above logic would be slightly different than the tarballs]
> >>
> >> We [Jed and I ] also discussed having git repos and corresponding
> >> tarballs match - and caching tarballs locally for unreliable external
> >> sites. And then using SHA as a way of versioning to eliminate most
> >> cases where with-clean would be needed.
> >>
> >> Just a note: all these issues are primarily with git users - not
> >> petsc-release/tarball users.
> >>
> >> Satish
> >
>
>
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