[AG-TECH] AG session for network staff ?
Michael Elmore
MWElmore at lbl.gov
Fri Jun 3 10:06:23 CDT 2005
Hello Mike O'Connor,
Is there another date that is good for you? We could still have the
meeting at 8 pacific. Is that time good for you. If we have it then
some of the people in Europe could come. I think it would be a little
late for Asia though.
Thanks
Mike
PS. I am assuming you have been getting all of the suggestions
Mike O'Connor wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Prior to replying to you I checked the LBL Holiday schedule but
> neglected to check the BNL holiday schedule.
> BNL is closed July 5th so I would not be able to use the AG node that
> day.
>
> (I'll use my initials since there are too many Mikes on this thread)
> -moc
>
> Michael Elmore wrote:
>
>> sorry about that. I did mean July 5.
>> Mike
>>
>> monika.k.rabarison wrote:
>>
>>> Mike meant July 5th Townhall.
>>>
>>> -Monika
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tom,
>>>> Monica Rabarison expressed an interest in having a meeting
>>>> to discuss mutlicast issues and troubleshooting for the
>>>> access grid. (see below some of the email we have been
>>>> sending.) I have found two people who are willing to
>>>> participate in this. Mike O'Conner from ESNet and Greg Bell from
>>>> LBLNet. Mike is willing to give the
>>>> presentation and Greg is willing to help answer
>>>> questions. The first question is can this be done at the
>>>> 8 am townhall on July 7 (Mike can only do the 8 am presentation)
>>>> The second question is what kind of
>>>> discussion do you think would be good to present.
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Mike O'Connor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, July 5 for the 8AM pacific meeting is fine, I'll
>>>>> have to decline the later meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> We should talk about the audience and topic of
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> discussion. >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Elmore wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike,
>>>>>> I just heard from Greg and he said that July 5 is ok
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> with him. He >> also said he would be willing to attend
>>>> and help answer questions. >> Mike would you be willing
>>>> and could you have a presentation available >> by July 5?
>>>> Also, there are usually two meetings for the town hall.
>>>>
>>>>>> One at 8 am pacific and one at 4 pm pacific. Could
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> you and would >> you be willing to do both meetings. If
>>>> you can only do the morning >> one it would be fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> monika.k.rabarison wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> July 5th is fine for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Monika
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Monica et al.,
>>>>>>>> I was wondering if it would be ok to do the meeting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> at the >>>> July 5 townhall. I will be on vacation for
>>>> all of the >>>> dates you listed. Is this ok for MIke
>>>> and Greg? >>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> monika.k.rabarison wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any date/time except June 10, 13, and 17 is fine for
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> me. >>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Monika
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Greg and MIke,
>>>>>>>>>> I received this from Monika about the content of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> the >>>>>> meeting. The date is not set. If you can't
>>>> meet at >>>>>> Brookhaven on the 7th, then we could schedule this
>>>> for >>>>>> another time. Monika, do you
>>>> have another date in mind? >>>>>> Thank you, Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> monika.k.rabarison wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mike,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the session is mainly intended for network
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> personel but >>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> node >ops too could benefit from it. When the idea
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> came >>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> up >>, what >everyone wanted was mostly about how to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> know >>>> that >>there is a >multicast problem and how to
>>>> fix the >>>> problem, >>and also >re-explain how the AG is
>>>> using >>>> multicast. There >>is already >an AGDP doc
>>>> about these but >>>> apparently >>everyone (mostly node
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> operators) wanted to >>>> have the >>network people
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> attend such a >session. It looks >>>> like in >>many cases
>>>> , the network person is >not very >>>> familiar with >>the
>>>> AG and the node operator is not >very >>>> familiar with
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> networking! How technical it should be? >>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm not very sure >>about this. >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>> Monika
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Monica,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have talked to Greg and he is not sure what he
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> can >>>>>>>> prepare for a meeting like this. How
>>>> technical he >>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> can >>>>make it etc. He would like to know more
>>>>>>>> specifically >>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> what >>you would like to get out of a multicast
>>>>>>>>>> presentation. >>Thank you and have a good weekend.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> monika.k.rabarison wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please do so. June 7 sounds good to me. If it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> too >>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> close >for the presenter(s) any time would do, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> guess. >>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monika
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monica,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you like me to ask the networking people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>would like to give a presentation? If so
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> then >>>> maybe >>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>could do the presentation at the next
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> Town >>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hall >>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> on >>June >>7. One of the people might have a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> problem with 8 >>>>>> >>am, but >>I can find out. Let me
>>>> know or let >>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> me >>know >>about another >>time. Thank you,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monika.k.rabarison wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you indeed for your response. You are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> right >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >replied to this suggestion yet. I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> cc-ing >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alex >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>they are >also interested in such a session
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> at >>>>>> TACC. >>>>Having the talk >on a Town Hall is a
>>>> great >>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> idea. >>I am >>>>thinking that the >summer might not
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> be a >>>> good >>time as >>>>people go on vacation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, we >>>> could have >>it >>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> whenever >>the speakers are >available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monika
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monika,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for not responding to this earlier. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> haven't >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seen >>any other responses either. I am not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> willing >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>lead >>such a meeting, but I am willing to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> try >>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and >>get >>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>speaker >>for you. One of the Network people
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> at >>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LBNL >>is >>quite >>versed in Multicasting and I
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> think >>>>>> that he >>might >>be >>willing to give a
>>>> talk and I >>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> could >>try to >>get the >>person >>at ESNet who
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> isolates >>>> the >>multicast >>troubles on >>ESNet. >>Let
>>>> me know what you >>>> >>think. Maybe >>it could be
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> done on a >>Town Hall >>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> meeting. Thank you, >>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monika.k.rabarison wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A suggestion poped up at the AG retreat on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> organizing >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AG >session for network staff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is to have one person or more share
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge, >>>>>how-tos, tips, etc...on AG
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> network >>>>>>>> support. How does >>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>sound? Is there anyone out there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> willing to >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> lead >>>>such >>>session? Node operators too would
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> indeed >>benefit >>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as >some of us (at least myself)are not very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> network >>>>>>>>"literate". >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monika
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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