[AG-TECH] AG session for network staff ?

Michael Elmore MWElmore at lbl.gov
Thu Jun 2 14:51:11 CDT 2005


sorry about that.  I did mean July 5.
Mike

monika.k.rabarison wrote:

>Mike meant July 5th Townhall.
>
>-Monika
>
>  
>
>>Tom,
>>Monica Rabarison expressed an interest in having a meeting
>>to discuss  mutlicast issues and troubleshooting for the
>>access grid.  (see below  some of the email we have been
>>sending.)  I have found two people who  are willing to
>>participate in this.  Mike O'Conner from ESNet and Greg 
>>Bell from LBLNet.  Mike is willing to give the
>>presentation and Greg is  willing to help answer
>>questions.  The first question is can this be  done at the
>>8 am townhall on July 7 (Mike can only do the 8 am 
>>presentation)  The second question is what kind of
>>discussion do you  think would be good to present.
>>Thank you,
>>Mike
>>
>>Mike O'Connor wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Mike,
>>>
>>>Sure, July 5 for the 8AM pacific meeting is fine, I'll
>>>have to decline  the later meeting.
>>>
>>>We should talk about the audience and topic of
>>>      
>>>
>>discussion. >
>>    
>>
>>>-Mike
>>>
>>>Michael Elmore wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Mike,
>>>>I just heard from Greg and he said that July 5 is ok
>>>>        
>>>>
>>with him.  He  >> also said he would be willing to attend
>>and help answer questions.   >> Mike would you be willing
>>and could you have a presentation available  >> by July 5?
>> Also, there are usually two meetings for the town hall.  
>>    
>>
>>>>One at 8 am pacific and one at 4 pm pacific.   Could
>>>>        
>>>>
>>you and would  >> you be willing to do both meetings.  If
>>you can only do the morning  >> one it would be fine.
>>    
>>
>>>>Thank you,
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>monika.k.rabarison wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>>July 5th is fine for me.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Monika
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>Monica et al.,
>>>>>>I was wondering if it would be ok to do the meeting
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>at the >>>> July 5  townhall.  I will be on vacation for
>>all of the >>>> dates you listed.   Is  this ok for MIke
>>and Greg? >>>> Thank you,
>>    
>>
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>monika.k.rabarison wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Any date/time except June 10, 13, and 17 is fine for
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>me. >>>>>
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Monika
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hello Greg and MIke,
>>>>>>>>I received this from Monika about the content of
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>the >>>>>> meeting.  The date  is not set.  If you can't
>>meet at >>>>>> Brookhaven on the 7th, then we could 
>>schedule this for >>>>>> another time.  Monika, do you
>>have another date in mind? >>>>>> Thank you, Mike
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>monika.k.rabarison wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mike,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the session is mainly intended for network
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>personel but >>>>>>>            
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>node >ops too could benefit from it. When the idea
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>came >>>>>>       
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>up >>, what >everyone wanted was mostly about how to
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>know >>>> that >>there is a >multicast problem and how to
>>fix the >>>> problem, >>and also >re-explain how the AG is
>>using >>>> multicast. There >>is already >an AGDP doc
>>about these but >>>> apparently >>everyone (mostly node
>>    
>>
>>>operators) wanted to >>>> have the >>network people
>>>      
>>>
>>attend such a >session. It looks >>>> like in >>many cases
>>, the network person is >not very >>>> familiar with >>the
>>AG and the node operator is not >very >>>> familiar with
>>    
>>
>>>>networking! How technical it should be? >>>>  
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm not very sure >>about this. >
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks  again,
>>>>>>>>>Monika
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Monica,
>>>>>>>>>>I have talked to Greg and he is not sure what he
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>can >>>>>>>> prepare for a  meeting like this.  How
>>technical he >>>>>>>>           
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>can >>>>make it etc. He would like to know more
>>>>>>specifically >>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>what >>you would like to get out  of a multicast
>>>>>>>>presentation. >>Thank you and have a good weekend.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>monika.k.rabarison wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Mike,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Please do so. June 7 sounds good to me. If it is
>>>>>>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>too >>>>>>>>>                      
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>>>close >for the presenter(s) any time would do, I
>>>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>guess. >>>>    
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>Monika
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Monica,
>>>>>>>>>>>>Would you like me to ask the networking people
>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>if >>>>>>>>>>               
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>they >>>>>>would like to  give a presentation?  If so
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>then >>>> maybe >>>>>>        
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>they >>could do the presentation at  the next
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>Town >>>>>>>>           
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hall >>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>on >>June >>7.  One of the people might have a
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>problem with 8  >>>>>> >>am, but >>I can find out.  Let me
>>know or let >>>>>>       
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>me >>know >>about another  >>time. Thank you,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>monika.k.rabarison wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                          
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Mike,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thank you indeed for your response. You are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>right >>>>>>>>>>>                                  
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>nobody >>>      
>>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>has >replied to this suggestion yet. I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>cc-ing >>>>>>>>>>               
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Alex >>>>>>             
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>as >>>>they are >also interested in such a session
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>at >>>>>> TACC. >>>>Having the talk >on a Town Hall is a
>>great >>>>>>       
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>idea. >>I am >>>>thinking that the >summer might not
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>be a >>>> good >>time as >>>>people go on vacation.
>>    
>>
>>>Anyway, we >>>> could have >>it >>>>         
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>whenever >>the speakers are >available.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                          
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Monika
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Monika,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sorry for not responding to this earlier.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>haven't >>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>seen >>any other  responses either.  I am not
>>>>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>willing >>>>>>             
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to >>>>lead >>such a meeting, but I am  willing to
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>try >>>>>>       
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>and >>get >>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>a >>speaker >>for you.  One of the Network people
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>at       >>>>>>>>           
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>LBNL >>is >>quite >>versed in Multicasting and I
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>think >>>>>> that he >>might >>be  >>willing to give a
>>talk and I >>>>>>       
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>could >>try to >>get the >>person >>at ESNet who 
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>isolates >>>> the >>multicast >>troubles on >>ESNet. >>Let
>>me know what you  >>>> >>think.  Maybe >>it could be
>>    
>>
>>>>done on a >>Town Hall >>>>  
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>meeting. Thank you, >>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                          
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>monika.k.rabarison wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi everybody,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A suggestion poped up at the AG retreat on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                              
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>organizing >>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                              
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>an >>>    
>>>>>>>>>>>>                          
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AG >session for network staff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The idea is to have one person or more share
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                              
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>knowledge, >>>>>how-tos, tips, etc...on AG
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>network >>>>>>>> support. How does >>>>>          
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>that >>>sound? Is there anyone out there
>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>willing to >>>>>>>>>>                        
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>lead >>>>such >>>session? Node operators too would
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>indeed >>benefit >>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>from it >>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                          
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>as >some of us (at least myself)are not very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>network >>>>>>>>"literate". >
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Monika
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                              
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>      >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>    
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