[AG-TECH] Multi-channel video capture / would INSORS help?
Randy Groves
randy.groves at boeing.com
Thu May 13 18:46:39 CDT 2004
Here's part of a previous note - the following both sets the source for
each of the ports on the card, and also changes the default size to
CIF. What you can do is set up a user with this configuration, then copy
the profile into the Default User, so that everyone gets the
profile. There is one aspect of the profile scheme that requires that all
the users have local admin rights on the machine - I don't know what causes
this.
Here's the previous info:
As far as the grey border goes, here's an example of registry settings for
HKEY_CURRENT_USER that will set the size to CIF (and also set the sources
for the four vic streams). You sould apply this AFTER you've started up
the Venue Client and added the VideoConsumer streams for the 4
connections. You can just use parts of this if you wish. Obviously, you
should be comfortable tweaking the registry.
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Winnov\Videum\vic.exe0]
"Width"=dword:00000160
"Height"=dword:00000120
"Compression"=dword:00000002
"Source"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Winnov\Videum\vic.exe1]
"Width"=dword:00000160
"Height"=dword:00000120
"Compression"=dword:00000002
"Source"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Winnov\Videum\vic.exe2]
"Width"=dword:00000160
"Height"=dword:00000120
"Compression"=dword:00000002
"Source"=dword:00000002
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Winnov\Videum\vic.exe3]
"Width"=dword:00000160
"Height"=dword:00000120
"Compression"=dword:00000002
"Source"=dword:00000003
Hope this helps.
-randy
At 01:05 PM 5/13/2004, A Quay wrote:
> >>Insors uses a config file to make it (Winnov Videum 4400)
> >>work in AG1 and a plug in to make it work in AG2.
>
>Would Insors be willing to share their plug-in or technical expertise in
>maintaining video mapping in VIC?
>
>Andy Quay
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Cindy Sievers [mailto:sievers at lanl.gov]
>Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:38 PM
>To: A Quay; ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
>Subject: RE: [AG-TECH] Multi-channel video capture
>
>This is certainly becoming an issue, many of the newer mother boards
>just
>don't have the amount of PCI slots available. (read Dell here). I can
>get
>the Winnov Videum 4400 card to work in AG2, but it's a huge
>pain......basically you need to map the source to the instance of vic
>each
>time you enter a venue. If I can figure out how to make it always
>maintain
>this mapping, it would be great....
>
>Insors uses a config file to make it work in AG1 and a plug in to make
>it
>work in AG2.
>
>I am interested in hearing if anyone else has been successful with this
>card, too.
>
>
> At 02:26 PM 3/30/2004, A Quay wrote:
> >Did anybody every resolve this topic for the perfect quad-input video
> >capture card? I am about to build another three CPU ag node and would
> >really like to use a card such as the winnov videum 4400 quad input
> >video card or Ituner Spectra 8 video capture card due to my lack of PCI
> >slots.
> >
> >I really need a card that performs seamlessly with AG 2.x and ideally
> >would like one that still works with AG 1.x.
> >
> >Any suggestions would be great.
> >
> >-andy
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "Osland, CD (Chris) " <C.D.Osland at rl.ac.uk>
> > > To: AG Tech <ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov>
> > > Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:56:52 -0000
> > > Subject: [AG-TECH] Multi-channel video capture
> > >
> > > My quest for efficient video capture of multiple channels via a
> > > single card continues.
> > >
> > > I was originally looking at the iTuner Spectra card (with 4
> > > channels) but have found that the UK supplier has given up
> > > 'because of problems with support'. Many thanks for those
> > > who replied, especially Bob Riddle; from him I understand
> > > that use of the Spectra card increases the amount of
> > > hand-knitting that has to be done whne switching venues.
> > >
> > > My next candidate is the Winnov Videum 4400 VO (or non-VO if
> > > I reckon I can use the audio interfaces to save on a sound
> > > card). Can the list tell me whether this would suffer in the
> > > same way (having to do extra work whenever you change venue)?
> > > I really want to increase automation, not add extra operator tasks.
> > >
> > > Many thanks in advance for any views.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Chris Osland
> > >
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> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Bob Riddle [mailto:bdr at internet2.edu]
> > > > Sent: 12 February 2004 17:45
> > > > To: Osland, CD (Chris)
> > > > Cc: AG Tech
> > > > Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] hauppauge video problems
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > yes - but as Mike said, every time I switch venues and vic(s)
> > > > restart, I
> > > > get the little window (for each instance of vic) that asks me
> > > > to choose
> > > > my video source. That doesn't annoy me, so I'm a happy
> > > > Spectra8 card
> > > > user (and I opened up a couple more PCI slots!)
> > > >
> > > > Osland, CD (Chris) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Just to check, Bob...
> > > > >
> > > > >You say you're using the Spectra8 card - do I assume that you're
> > > > >using it successfully!? Under XP? If so, that's the way I'm
> > > > >going to go as well.
> > > > >
> > > > >Cheers
> > > > >
> > > > >Chris
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >____________________________________________________________________
> > > > >Chris Osland
> > > > Office tel: +44
> > > > >(0) 1235 446565
> > > > >Digital Media and Access Grid
> > > > Medialab tel: +44 (0)
> > > > >1235 446459
> > > > >BIT Department Access
> > > > Grid room tel: +44
> > > > >(0) 1235 445666
> > > > >e-mail: C.D.Osland at rl.ac.uk
> > > > Fax: +44
> > > > >(0) 1235 445597
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> > > > >Chilton, DIDCOT, Oxon OX11 0QX, UK
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> > > > >intended recipient only.
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> > > > >it to anyone else,
> > > > >but return this email to the sender and delete your copy of it.]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > > >>From: Bob Riddle [mailto:bdr at internet2.edu]
> > > > >>Sent: 11 February 2004 16:19
> > > > >>To: Michael Miller
> > > > >>Cc: Ti Leggett; Harold Micheal Goldman; AG Tech
> > > > >>Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] hauppauge video problems
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I actually use a Spectra8 card on our "loaner" AG - it has
> > > > four video
> > > > >>ports on it and works the way Michael describes. I've been
> > > > >>trying to do
> > > > >>the same thing with a 4-port Winnov card as well ... (you
> > > > know, there
> > > > >>are only so many PCI port in a one-box node!)
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Michael Miller wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>Just to add to what Ti said:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>My experience has been that, depending on the driver, you
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>can select
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>the WDM device in the configuration of multiple
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>VideoProducers. When
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>vic starts up, one of the WDM cameras is automatically
> > > > selected for
> > > > >>>the first VideoProducer. Then you are given a series of
> > > > dialogs to
> > > > >>>choose a camera for each remaining VideoProducer. Again,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>whether you
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>get to choose another camera will depend on how the driver
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>enumerates
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>the cameras. The QuickCam Pro 4000 does show you multiple
> > > > cameras,
> > > > >>>but it gives them all the same name. So, it can be
> > > confusing when
> > > > >>>trying to choose a camera for the subsequent
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>VideoProducers. If you
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>have two different cameras, the WDM drivers will assign names
>as
> > > > >>>appropriate and it's much easier to decide which camera to
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>choose. I
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>have an iBot firewire camera and a QuickCam Pro 4000 so
> > > I can see
> > > > >>>which camera has become the default after the last
> > > > session. If you
> > > > >>>have two of the same camera and the driver doesn't assign each
>a
> > > > >>>unique name, that's when you run into trouble.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>HTH
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>Michael Miller
> > > > >>>NCSA
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>At 05:36 PM 2/10/2004, Ti Leggett wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>Actually the problem is this. Vic can only handle Video
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>for Windows (VfW
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>>devices) which is an old driver style. vic can map the
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>newer WDM drivers
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>>to a VfW device, but it can only do that for one device.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>Basically, if
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>>you have drivers that are VfW then all of them will be
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>seen and usable
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>>in vic. If the drivers are WDM only, then vic will pick a
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>device and map
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>>and that's it. Hauppage has stopped providing VfW drivers
> > > > for their
> > > > >>>>cards. Osprey, however, still provides VfW drivers for
> > > > their cards.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>This driver issue is also why you can only have one web
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>cam hooked up
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>>since, I'd say, all web cams provide only WDM drivers.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>Make more sense?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 08:35, Bob Riddle wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>>for what it's worth - I've been down this road and gave
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>up - while
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>>this
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>>is no problem on Linux, the driver for WinXP assumes
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
>
>
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