[AG-TECH] Multi-channel video capture / would INSORS help?
A Quay
andy at arts.ufl.edu
Thu May 13 15:05:35 CDT 2004
>>Insors uses a config file to make it (Winnov Videum 4400)
>>work in AG1 and a plug in to make it work in AG2.
Would Insors be willing to share their plug-in or technical expertise in
maintaining video mapping in VIC?
Andy Quay
-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy Sievers [mailto:sievers at lanl.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:38 PM
To: A Quay; ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
Subject: RE: [AG-TECH] Multi-channel video capture
This is certainly becoming an issue, many of the newer mother boards
just
don't have the amount of PCI slots available. (read Dell here). I can
get
the Winnov Videum 4400 card to work in AG2, but it's a huge
pain......basically you need to map the source to the instance of vic
each
time you enter a venue. If I can figure out how to make it always
maintain
this mapping, it would be great....
Insors uses a config file to make it work in AG1 and a plug in to make
it
work in AG2.
I am interested in hearing if anyone else has been successful with this
card, too.
At 02:26 PM 3/30/2004, A Quay wrote:
>Did anybody every resolve this topic for the perfect quad-input video
>capture card? I am about to build another three CPU ag node and would
>really like to use a card such as the winnov videum 4400 quad input
>video card or Ituner Spectra 8 video capture card due to my lack of PCI
>slots.
>
>I really need a card that performs seamlessly with AG 2.x and ideally
>would like one that still works with AG 1.x.
>
>Any suggestions would be great.
>
>-andy
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Osland, CD (Chris) " <C.D.Osland at rl.ac.uk>
> > To: AG Tech <ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov>
> > Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:56:52 -0000
> > Subject: [AG-TECH] Multi-channel video capture
> >
> > My quest for efficient video capture of multiple channels via a
> > single card continues.
> >
> > I was originally looking at the iTuner Spectra card (with 4
> > channels) but have found that the UK supplier has given up
> > 'because of problems with support'. Many thanks for those
> > who replied, especially Bob Riddle; from him I understand
> > that use of the Spectra card increases the amount of
> > hand-knitting that has to be done whne switching venues.
> >
> > My next candidate is the Winnov Videum 4400 VO (or non-VO if
> > I reckon I can use the audio interfaces to save on a sound
> > card). Can the list tell me whether this would suffer in the
> > same way (having to do extra work whenever you change venue)?
> > I really want to increase automation, not add extra operator tasks.
> >
> > Many thanks in advance for any views.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Chris Osland
> >
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bob Riddle [mailto:bdr at internet2.edu]
> > > Sent: 12 February 2004 17:45
> > > To: Osland, CD (Chris)
> > > Cc: AG Tech
> > > Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] hauppauge video problems
> > >
> > >
> > > yes - but as Mike said, every time I switch venues and vic(s)
> > > restart, I
> > > get the little window (for each instance of vic) that asks me
> > > to choose
> > > my video source. That doesn't annoy me, so I'm a happy
> > > Spectra8 card
> > > user (and I opened up a couple more PCI slots!)
> > >
> > > Osland, CD (Chris) wrote:
> > >
> > > >Just to check, Bob...
> > > >
> > > >You say you're using the Spectra8 card - do I assume that you're
> > > >using it successfully!? Under XP? If so, that's the way I'm
> > > >going to go as well.
> > > >
> > > >Cheers
> > > >
> > > >Chris
> > > >
> > >
> >
>____________________________________________________________________
> > > >Chris Osland
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: Bob Riddle [mailto:bdr at internet2.edu]
> > > >>Sent: 11 February 2004 16:19
> > > >>To: Michael Miller
> > > >>Cc: Ti Leggett; Harold Micheal Goldman; AG Tech
> > > >>Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] hauppauge video problems
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>I actually use a Spectra8 card on our "loaner" AG - it has
> > > four video
> > > >>ports on it and works the way Michael describes. I've been
> > > >>trying to do
> > > >>the same thing with a 4-port Winnov card as well ... (you
> > > know, there
> > > >>are only so many PCI port in a one-box node!)
> > > >>
> > > >>Michael Miller wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>Just to add to what Ti said:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>My experience has been that, depending on the driver, you
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>can select
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>the WDM device in the configuration of multiple
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>VideoProducers. When
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>vic starts up, one of the WDM cameras is automatically
> > > selected for
> > > >>>the first VideoProducer. Then you are given a series of
> > > dialogs to
> > > >>>choose a camera for each remaining VideoProducer. Again,
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>whether you
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>get to choose another camera will depend on how the driver
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>enumerates
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>the cameras. The QuickCam Pro 4000 does show you multiple
> > > cameras,
> > > >>>but it gives them all the same name. So, it can be
> > confusing when
> > > >>>trying to choose a camera for the subsequent
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>VideoProducers. If you
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>have two different cameras, the WDM drivers will assign names
as
> > > >>>appropriate and it's much easier to decide which camera to
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>choose. I
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>have an iBot firewire camera and a QuickCam Pro 4000 so
> > I can see
> > > >>>which camera has become the default after the last
> > > session. If you
> > > >>>have two of the same camera and the driver doesn't assign each
a
> > > >>>unique name, that's when you run into trouble.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>HTH
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Michael Miller
> > > >>>NCSA
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>At 05:36 PM 2/10/2004, Ti Leggett wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>Actually the problem is this. Vic can only handle Video
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>for Windows (VfW
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>devices) which is an old driver style. vic can map the
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>newer WDM drivers
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>to a VfW device, but it can only do that for one device.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>Basically, if
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>you have drivers that are VfW then all of them will be
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>seen and usable
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>in vic. If the drivers are WDM only, then vic will pick a
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>device and map
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>and that's it. Hauppage has stopped providing VfW drivers
> > > for their
> > > >>>>cards. Osprey, however, still provides VfW drivers for
> > > their cards.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>This driver issue is also why you can only have one web
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>cam hooked up
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>since, I'd say, all web cams provide only WDM drivers.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Make more sense?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 08:35, Bob Riddle wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>for what it's worth - I've been down this road and gave
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>up - while
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>this
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>is no problem on Linux, the driver for WinXP assumes
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
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