[AG-TECH] creating a venue

[Ivan R. Judson]

I'd like to voice support for Jennifer's point, we would love to have folks
run venue servers for themselves. Perhaps someone would create a wiki page
listing venue servers that are out there so we can trot around from server
to server :-).

We will continue to host venues for folks who can't (or don't want to), but
if you need a venue please send email to ag-mcs at mcs.anl.gov with a name and
description. Sending email to Bob is a sure fire way to cause grief for
everyone. He does have a life outside of the AG and sending requests to
ag-mcs makes it possible for whoever is available to respond to the request.
(This is the same reason certificate requests no longer go to Ti, they go to
the group :-).

Thanks!

--Ivan

Btw, there is also good news for all you waiting to get institutional venues
on the ag2 server, but I'll let Tom send that email!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov 
> [mailto:owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Jennifer Teig 
> von Hoffman
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:06 AM
> To: Ronald Crummett
> Cc: ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
> Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] creating a venue
> 
> My personal bias would be to set up your own AG2 venue server 
> and associated Bridge Server. Having your own server gives 
> you control not only over your own bridge, but also the 
> option of access control lists for meetings. Plus if you end 
> up in a situation where you have to work around firewalls, 
> you've got more control over the addresses in use.
> 
> A couple documents which might help (both from the AG2 web site):
> 
> Virtual Venue Management
> http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/fl/research/accessgrid/documentati
on/VENUE_MANAGEMENT_MANUAL_HTML/VenueManagementManualHTML.htm
> 
> How to run a Bridge Server
> http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/fl/research/accessgrid/documentati
> on/BridgeServer-HowTo/BridgeServer-HOWTO.htm
> 
> - Jennifer
> 
> Michael Daw wrote:
> 
> > Both solutions should work. Using QuickBridge (QB) will 
> mean you have 
> > full control of the server. Using VRVS means you will be 
> accessing one 
> > of two servers based in the US, controlled by their hosts 
> and the VRVS 
> > support team. Using VRVS, sites will only be able to access a small 
> > subset of the venues (the original ones, i.e. Full Sail, 
> Bridgeport, 
> > etc.), which you ought to book before using.
> > 
> > As to creating your own institutional venue, I think the only 
> > (undocumented) way is to e-mail Bob Olson (olson at mcs.anl.gov) and 
> > request one - he is on this list, but he might appreciate a 
> direct e-mail request.
> > 
> > --Mike
> > 
> > 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov [mailto:owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov]On
> >>Behalf Of Ronald Crummett
> >>Sent: 09 March 2004 01:26
> >>To: ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
> >>Subject: [AG-TECH] creating a venue
> >>
> >>
> >>Hello -
> >>
> >>Another day, another question.  I think you will all be so 
> sad when I 
> >>get this all figured out and don't ask questions anymore... ; )
> >>
> >>I have mentioned previously the project I am working on for the 
> >>University of Idaho Aquacultural Center (AQC), located near Twin 
> >>Falls, ID.  The project has become a little more 
> complicated in that 
> >>the people at the AQC would like to connect to several 
> remote areas, 
> >>namely Indian reservations in the Pacific Northwest.  I do 
> not know if 
> >>these reservations will have multicast-enabled Internet 
> access or not, 
> >>which I have learned
> >>(painfully)
> >>is pretty important.
> >>
> >>I have two solutions that I am considering:
> >>
> >>1.  The Aquacultural Center sets up a quickbridge by which the 
> >>reservations can connect to AccessGrid.
> >>
> >>2.  The reservations connect to AccessGrid using VRVS.
> >>
> >>I don't know which solution I should favor over the other, 
> and why.  
> >>But I believe that either solution will require creation of a venue 
> >>specific to the U of I AQC.  So the first, and I believe most 
> >>important, question is
> >>this:  how do I create such a venue?  I have had a hard 
> time finding 
> >>any documentation on the subject on the AccessGrid web 
> page, though I 
> >>am sure I need to look a little more.
> >>
> >>The second question regards the two proposed solutions.  I would 
> >>greatly appreciate your feedback on the two solutions and any 
> >>tradeoffs that may come about.  Thanks so much!
> >>
> >>-Ron Crummett
> >>
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