[AG-TECH] Critical Python Bug Affecting AGTk 2.2

[Joshua M. Brown]

Thank you, Ivan. Disregard the last note I sent as you have answered quite
well!

Thank you again.

Josh

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Ivan R. Judson wrote:

> > On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 08:39:58AM -0500, Joshua M. Brown wrote:
> > > Core 2, or Gentoo? i have people that put up a good deal of
> > money and
> > > purchased some very expensive equipment and it is stuck on AG1.x at
> > > this time because i have no idea what OS will be supported.
> >
> > Support is a funny word with many different meanings.  I
> > don't know that anything in this project is really
> > "supported" in the sense that "I paid for this and you must
> > fix it".  Whatever the community develops on/for, will be
> > "supported" in the sense that it will likely run the best on
> > that platform.  Ivan was pretty clear that Fedora Core and
> > Gentoo were two such platforms that the community were working on.
>
> Thanks Charles, I appreciate you're explaining this so clearly. The problems
> we've been fighting are the result of the trade-offs of trying to be
> non-volatile for the community, while making significant progress in
> development of future versions of the software to include what the users
> need/want. We have not performed as well as I think we could have, but we
> are working on fixing that.
>
> In terms of support, Charles makes good points above, in fact, we are a
> small development team working on building a research platform. We're
> supporting a set of production services, but that's not something we
> actually receive any support to do, our support is all focused on developing
> the research platform.
>
> > If you want a more concrete level of support, maybe InSors or
> > another company can provide that.
> >
> > > i really do need a solid answer on:
> > >
> > > 1) which distro?
> > > 2) AG 2.3 - wait for that or move ahead with AG2.2
> >
> > There will likely always be a newer one to look forward to...
> > at least as long as this project continues.  Newer generally
> > means less stable.
>
> Ouch, and Ouch, and Yes :-). Here's where we are vectored at the moment, I
> don't expect this to significantly change, but I can't comment yet on how
> fast this will roll out either:
>
> Windows - ANL Support
> OS X - ANL Support
> Linux:
> 	- Source Distribution - ANL Support
> 	- Gentoo - ANL Support
> 	- Fedora Core 2 - External Support
> 	- Slackware - External Support
>
> We'd love to see debian, suse, mandrake, and others, but we just don't have
> the time yet to do them. There are external developers working on other
> distributions (debian at least), but I can't guarantee support for them will
> be soon.
>
> We have built the software in a way that it should be able to be ported to a
> new platform relatively easily (and we have examples that have shown this to
> be true). So in the vein of all good open source projects, if it's not there
> and you want it, jump in and do it!
>
> > It takes time to work out all the issues to provide a stable
> > solution, by which time something newer is most likely out.
> > Changing stuff is a destabalizing factor.  It depends on how
> > "bleeding edge" you want to be.
>
> This is true, and something everyone should know is that the 2.3 release
> will have no significant functionality growth, there are some node services
> that will be included, but they are being developed mostly by guests, or
> externally. The core team is focused only on bug fixing, stability, and
> improving tests and documentation. So hopefully this 2.3 release will shake
> out the last spasms of the new software.
>
> --Ivan
>
>