[AG-TECH] physical security

[Ivan R. Judson]

National Endowment for the Arts is one.  Perhaps a private foundation
thought, like Gertrude Stein, or Kaufmann, or in conjunction with a PBS
special you could get the Corporation for Public Broadcasting to chip in
with private foundation money...

Just ideas..
--Ivan


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> [mailto:owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Tom Coffin
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 1:07 PM
> To: ag-tech at accessgrid.org
> Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] physical security
> 
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> 
> There was an art installation that did this (over 10 years
> ago I believe) using point to point satalite vtc 
> technologies. It was set up in downtown store fronts in New 
> York and LA. Relatives who hadn't seen each other in years 
> reconnected and spontaneaous performance did occur. I think 
> it was funded 
> by some fine arts grants at that time.
> 
> It would be very cool to do it with the AG.
> 
> ______________________________________________________
> At 09:39 AM 8/2/2002 -0700, Robert B Heckendorn wrote:
>    >> I completely agree that this is problematic.  However, 
> with properly
>    >> planned dedicated space, a public AG is possible and 
> setting up a few
>    >> of them in public spaces could be an interesting demo.  
> Imagine random
>    >> walk by conversations between folks at nodes set up in 
> common areas.  
>    >> Or between a pair of museums as part of a technology demo.
>    >
>    >I have really wanted to do this but I don't where I would 
> get funding.
>    >It would be public art... an experiment in psychology... 
> an experiment
>    >in human behavior.  I would like to have a wall in various places
>    >around the globe that is in contact with others 
> periodically changing
>    >1-1 mappings.  What if historically antagonistic people could talk
>    >through a wall that prevents physical contact or fear of place or
>    >situation?  Would the wall become a forum for discourse or hatred
>    >display or what?  Would friendships arise between people who can't
>    >touch or move from location?  Would relatives meet across 
> barriers of
>    >politics, and space?  Could people better work out their 
> own problems
>    >over distance with strangers than traditional means?  
> What would be
>    >the effect on third party observers that are allowed to 
> watch but not
>    >participate?  Would people give others the gift of 
> performace such as
>    >play music or tell stories because you can't give 
> anything physical
>    >across the barrier.  What if three way conversations 
> could be set up,
>    >what is the best way to make that work?  etc.  If I could 
> think of who
>    >is crazy enough to fund such an off-the-wall experiment I 
> would write
>    >the grant.  But this seems too wild for any normal funding agency.
>    >
>    >> Setup considerations:
>    >> 
>    >>   Use security style cameras.  Mark a spot on the floor 
> for people to
>    >>   stand.  Make sure windows show local video.  (To be 
> really cool, tie
>    >>   them to a tracking wand like they use in hospitals 
> for directional
>    >>   lighting.  The only place I have seen this is in 
> Labor and Delivery.
>    >>   Wand would need to be secured somehow.)
>    >> 
>    >>   Rear projection system with glass/plastic over the projection
>    >>   surface for protection.  This protects the projectors 
> and computers.
>    >> 
>    >>   Ceiling mounted mics, or directional mics pointed at 
> the camera
>    >>   focal point.  There are probably more clever ways to 
> approach this.
>    >>   Lots of science museums and even some playgrounds use 
> acoustical
>    >>   tricks to carry sound from point-to-point without mics, and
>    >>   eliminate background noise.  You could make one point 
> the camera
>    >>   focal point and the other behind the screen, placing 
> the mic's out
>    >>   of reach.
>    >> 
>    >>   Touch screen for venue navigation.  or to keep it 
> simple, just tie
>    >>   the system to one venue.
>    >
>    >This sounds workable with a lot of room modifications.  
> Could be interesting.
>    >
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