[AG-TECH] physical security
Ivan R. Judson
judson at mcs.anl.gov
Fri Aug 2 17:16:02 CDT 2002
National Endowment for the Arts is one. Perhaps a private foundation
thought, like Gertrude Stein, or Kaufmann, or in conjunction with a PBS
special you could get the Corporation for Public Broadcasting to chip in
with private foundation money...
Ivan R. Judson .~. http://www.mcs.anl.gov/~judson
Futures Laboratory .~. 630 252 0920
Argonne National Laboratory .~. 630 252 6424 Fax
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> [mailto:owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Tom Coffin
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 1:07 PM
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> Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] physical security
> There was an art installation that did this (over 10 years
> ago I believe) using point to point satalite vtc
> technologies. It was set up in downtown store fronts in New
> York and LA. Relatives who hadn't seen each other in years
> reconnected and spontaneaous performance did occur. I think
> it was funded
> by some fine arts grants at that time.
> It would be very cool to do it with the AG.
> At 09:39 AM 8/2/2002 -0700, Robert B Heckendorn wrote:
> >> I completely agree that this is problematic. However,
> with properly
> >> planned dedicated space, a public AG is possible and
> setting up a few
> >> of them in public spaces could be an interesting demo.
> Imagine random
> >> walk by conversations between folks at nodes set up in
> common areas.
> >> Or between a pair of museums as part of a technology demo.
> >I have really wanted to do this but I don't where I would
> get funding.
> >It would be public art... an experiment in psychology...
> an experiment
> >in human behavior. I would like to have a wall in various places
> >around the globe that is in contact with others
> periodically changing
> >1-1 mappings. What if historically antagonistic people could talk
> >through a wall that prevents physical contact or fear of place or
> >situation? Would the wall become a forum for discourse or hatred
> >display or what? Would friendships arise between people who can't
> >touch or move from location? Would relatives meet across
> barriers of
> >politics, and space? Could people better work out their
> own problems
> >over distance with strangers than traditional means?
> What would be
> >the effect on third party observers that are allowed to
> watch but not
> >participate? Would people give others the gift of
> performace such as
> >play music or tell stories because you can't give
> anything physical
> >across the barrier. What if three way conversations
> could be set up,
> >what is the best way to make that work? etc. If I could
> think of who
> >is crazy enough to fund such an off-the-wall experiment I
> would write
> >the grant. But this seems too wild for any normal funding agency.
> >> Setup considerations:
> >> Use security style cameras. Mark a spot on the floor
> for people to
> >> stand. Make sure windows show local video. (To be
> really cool, tie
> >> them to a tracking wand like they use in hospitals
> for directional
> >> lighting. The only place I have seen this is in
> Labor and Delivery.
> >> Wand would need to be secured somehow.)
> >> Rear projection system with glass/plastic over the projection
> >> surface for protection. This protects the projectors
> and computers.
> >> Ceiling mounted mics, or directional mics pointed at
> the camera
> >> focal point. There are probably more clever ways to
> approach this.
> >> Lots of science museums and even some playgrounds use
> >> tricks to carry sound from point-to-point without mics, and
> >> eliminate background noise. You could make one point
> the camera
> >> focal point and the other behind the screen, placing
> the mic's out
> >> of reach.
> >> Touch screen for venue navigation. or to keep it
> simple, just tie
> >> the system to one venue.
> >This sounds workable with a lot of room modifications.
> Could be interesting.
> >| Robert Heckendorn | We may not
> be the only
> >| heckendo at cs.uidaho.edu | species on
> the planet but
> >| http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~heckendo | we sure do
> act like it.
> >| CS Dept, University of Idaho |
> >| Moscow, Idaho, USA 83844-1010 |
> Tom Coffin .......................... tcoffin at ncsa.uiuc.edu
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