[AG-TECH] New venues

[Mike Daw]

Don,

You got it exactly right. If your multicast goes down, you'll need a good
neighbour to run QuickBridge for you. (But all those deer you keep showing
in the lobby must have won you some friends...)

The point is that we no longer need rely on Argonne's server. And that
server no longer needs to be overloaded.

Think of it as a decentralisation initiative...

By the way, it's called 'QuickBridge' (trade mark due to me, for what it's
worth...) because you can download, install and use it very quickly and
easily - even during an event, if you need to.

--Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: morton [mailto:morton]On Behalf Of Don Morton
> Sent: 23 April 2002 13:38
> To: Mike Daw
> Cc: 'Robert Olson'; 'Monika Klara Rabarison'; ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
> Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] New venues
>
>
> I just want to make sure I'm clear on this, so
> I'm going to ask a probably-dumb question.
>
> Suppose U. Montana is having multicast problems.  What
> good is it going to do for "us" to be running QuickBridge?
> I assume the purpose of QuickBridge, like the MSB at
> ANL, is to provide a link between the lowly unicast world
> and the elite multicast world.  If we ain't got multicast,
> we ain't going nowhere by running QuickBridge, right?
>
> On the other hand, if Monika is running QuickBridge and her
> multicast is working, then perhaps we could coordinate with
> her to unicast to her QuickBridge and multicast out the
> other side.  Or, vice versa.  In other words, unless I'm
> missing something, it seems to me that running QuickBridge
> is a good, "neighbourly" thing to do, and doesn't particularly
> benefit the site that's running QuickBridge (other than knowing
> you're helping others, which is good).
>
> So, I can see where coordination might be tricky but, if enough of
> us run QuickBridge and create informal regional alliances, perhaps
> we can always have someone to rely on when our multicast goes down?
>
> Or, have I missed the boat completely?
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Monika,
>
> You could always use QuickBridge!
>
> http://www.accessgrid.org/agdp/howto/quickbridge.html
>
> Mike
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
> [mailto:owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov]On
> Behalf Of Robert Olson
>         Sent: 22 April 2002 22:40
>         To: Monika Klara Rabarison; Don Morton
>         Cc: ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
>         Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] New venues
>
>         Given the huge number of venues, I would rather not
> do that. The msb
> administration is already way
>         too unwieldy for me to want to spend any more time
> poking at...
>
>         (bridge config file is already >5000 lines)
>
>         --bob
>
>         At 10:02 AM 4/22/2002 -0500, Monika Klara Rabarison wrote:
>
>          Bob,
>
>          Could you set MSB in those new venues?
>
>          Just in case ...
>
>          Monika
>
>
>          On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Don Morton wrote:
>
>          > Monika Klara Rabarison wrote:
>          > >
>          > > This is cool.
>          > >
>          > > Thank you Bob,
>          > >
>          > > Monika
>          >
>          > I'm kind of thinking that, in many respects, this could
>          > almost completely remove the need for scheduling venues,
>          > making life easier for everybody.  It seems now like
>          > more of a matter of saying, "your place or mine?" when
>          > one tries to coordinate an event.
>          >
>          > I've noticed some folks still trying to schedule a venue
>          > and think it might take a little more of a formal
> announcement
>          > to convince everybody that, in most cases, maybe you don't
>          > need to schedule anymore :) :)
>          >
>          > Thanks again, Bob - what a brainstorm! :)
>          >
>          >
>          > >
>          > > On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Robert Olson wrote:
>          > >
>          > > > In an attempt to relieve some of our
> scheduling woes, I've
> created 94 new
>          > > > venues on venues.accessgrid.org :-).
>          > > >
>          > > > Each site in the list of registered nodes (see
>          > > >
http://www-fp.mcs.anl.gov/fl/accessgrid/ag-nodes.htm) now has a
venue for
         > > > that site to use as it wishes. We won't be doing any
centralized
scheduling
         > > > on these venues.
         > > >
         > > > They are reachable via the Institution Lobby venue, off the
Access Grid Lobby.
         > > >
         > > > --bob
         > > >
         > >
         > > --------------------------------------------------
         > > Monika Rabarison
         > > System Administrator
         > > HPVCI
         > > Jackson State University
         > > Lab-(601)979-5933
         > > RAVE Room-(601)979-1056 or (601)979-1061
         >
         >
         > --
         >    Don Morton                   http://MRoCCS.cs.umt.edu/~morton/
         >    Department of Computer Science       The University of Montana
         >    Missoula, MT 59812 | Voice (406) 243-4975 | Fax (406) 243-5139
         >

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         Monika Rabarison
         System Administrator
         HPVCI
         Jackson State University
         Lab-(601)979-5933
         RAVE Room-(601)979-1056 or (601)979-1061
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   Don Morton                   http://MRoCCS.cs.umt.edu/~morton/
   Department of Computer Science       The University of Montana
   Missoula, MT 59812 | Voice (406) 243-4975 | Fax (406) 243-5139