Grid node at eXCHANGE?

Fri Sep 22 17:16:14 CDT 2000

I think the easiest and best solution is what Jon Dugan proposed.

It would also make it simpler for NCSA to organize the Litton gear
as they are familiar with it.. Jon can you make that happen ?

--Rick

At 05:14 PM 9/22/2000 -0500, Karen Green wrote:
>Rick, and ag-tech:
>
>I really appreciate the time you've given this question of how to
>teleconference Dan into the Intel eXCHANGE. Since time is short, it would
>be great if you could tell me what you think the best solution is and what
>needs to be done to make that solution happen. Keep in mind we are talking
>about an event that is less than three weeks away and only a few weeks
>before SC2000. Also, the booth at eXCHANGE will have only T1 networking.
>
>My goal is to come to some kind of decision on this by COB Monday. Again,
>thanks to all on the ag-tech list for their help.
>
>Karen
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>At 10:15 AM 9/22/00 -0500, Lisa Childers wrote:
> >To my mind, the crux of the question is the context in which Dan wishes to
> >present himself.  I can imagine that it would be very compelling to show Dan
> >on a display surrounded by remote audiences across the Access Grid.
> >However, as this would be for many in the commercial world their first
> >impression of the AG, great care should be taken to do it right.
> >
> >Lisa
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov [mailto:owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov]On
> >Behalf Of Jon Dugan
> >Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 10:11 PM
> >To: Fogel, Robert
> >Cc: 'Karen Green'; Rick Stevens; ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
> >Subject: Re: Grid node at eXCHANGE?
> >
> >
> >  About 18 months ago Larry Smarr gave a talk at the Internet 2 members
> >  meeting in Portland, Oregon from an office here in Champaign.
> >
> >  We used a very nice audio/video codec from Litton for this.  It was a PC
> >  that you hook a microphone and video camera up to on one side and an
> >  ethernet on the other.  The catch is that it used quite a bit of a bit of
> >  bandwidth (3-10Mb/sec).  The video quality was quite good.  I don't have
> >  much experience with the ISDN based systems, but I was fairly impressed
> >with
> >  the Litton box.  More information about the Litton box can be obtained
> >from:
> >
> >    http://www.netaccsys.com/video/index.htm
> >
> >  I think for this kind of presentation we definitely want higher quality
> >  video than the Access Grid currently provides.
> >
> >  Bob, when you refer to a high bandwidth internet connection in San
> >  Fransisco, what kind of connection are you talking about?  Ideally you
> >would
> >  connect to Abilene (Internet 2) or vBNS.  In fact Internet 2 has some
> >Litton
> >  boxes that they loan out:
> >
> >    http://apps.internet2.edu/roadshows/litton.htm
> >
> >  Bill Nickless/Bob Olson/Lisa Childers -- comments?
> >
> >On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 07:58:07AM -0700, Fogel, Robert wrote:
> >> You can also reach me at the number below.  During the week of 10/9, Intel
> >> is hosting the first official rollout of IA-64 and Itanium.  The event
> >> (called the "eXCHANGE") will host over 5000 OEMs, ISVs, EBSPs and
> >End-Users
> >> aligned to deliver IA-64 based solutions and products.  Key Notes will be
> >> delivered by Intel's Andy Grove, Craig Barrett, Paul S. Otellini, HP's
> >Carly
> >> Fiorina, IBM's John M. Thompson and Microsoft's Bill Gates.
> >>
> >> The eXCHANGE is also setting up seven 15 minute live interviews with key
> >> technology leaders/innovators, and they would like Dan Reed to
> >participate.
> >> Since Dan is unable to make the engagement in person, the idea came up to
> >> use the access grid and a live video feed from Champaign for the
> >interview.
> >> This would be a great PR angle: delivering a message for the future of
> >> computing using the next generation communications infrastructure...
> >>
> >> We don't necessarily expect to setup a grid node at the eXCHANGE itself,
> >> which is in San Francisco, but perhaps this could be done with a high
> >> bandwidth internet connection on our end.  Please let us know  what we
> >would
> >> need on our end.  Thank you.
> >>
> >> Robert Fogel
> >> 253.371.7075
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Karen Green [mailto:kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu]
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:00 AM
> >> To: Rick Stevens; Karen Green; ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
> >> Cc: robert.fogel at intel.com
> >> Subject: RE: Grid node at eXCHANGE?
> >>
> >>
> >> Rick:
> >>
> >> I'm sure Bob or somebody else at Intel can tell you the tech specs for the
> >> booth. If someone wants to contact him direct, email is
> >> robert.fogel at intel.com. Please keep me in the loop on this. Thanks for the
> >> help.
> >>
> >> Karen
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 05:57 PM 9/20/00 -0500, Rick Stevens wrote:
> >> >Karen, the ANL team is happy to talk to Robert about technical options..
> >> >Do we know what gear they will have in the booth ?
> >> >
> >> >At 04:58 PM 9/20/2000 -0500, Karen Green wrote:
> >> >>Hi all:
> >> >>
> >> >>Intel would like to know if they can get a live remote of Dan Reed from
> >an
> >> >>NCSA Grid node to the conference floor of their IA-64 rollout in San
> >> >>Fransico on either 10.11 or 10.12. What are the possibilities here? How
> >> >>much work and how much equipment would it take? Please read the note
> >below
> >> >>and let me know what you think.
> >> >>
> >> >>--If we can't run a grid node, what are other options? Dan says an ISDN
> >> >>conference is one.
> >> >>
> >> >>thanks much,
> >> >>
> >> >>Karen Green
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >From: "Fogel, Robert" <robert.fogel at intel.com>
> >> >> >To: "'Karen Green'" <kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu>
> >> >> >Subject: RE: Dan's interview at the eXCHANGE
> >> >> >Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:25:38 -0700
> >> >> >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Perhaps we don't need to setup an actual grid node at the eXCHANGE;
> >> instead,
> >> >> >we might be able to use an internet link to the grid.  I would imagine
> >> that
> >> >> >the internet link would have to be relatively high speed, so we would
> >> need
> >> >> >to know what we would have to install as soon as possible so we can
> >get
> >> that
> >> >> >lined up.  Thanks again Karen.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Robert Fogel
> >> >> >253.371.7075
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >From: Karen Green [mailto:kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu]
> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 1:01 PM
> >> >> >To: Fogel, Robert
> >> >> >Subject: Re: Dan's interview at the eXCHANGE
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The way jury duty works in Champaign County is this: you go in in the
> >> >> >morning, you wait around all morning, if you don't get selected for a
> >> jury,
> >> >> >you leave around noon. Then you come back the next day and do the same
> >> >> >thing. In other words, you really don't know in advance when or if you
> >> will
> >> >> >be available. I don't know about the call-in thing. But I will check
> >> with
> >> >> >Dan.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >As for a live Access Grid node to bring Dan into the booth, it means
> >we
> >> >> >would have to set up a Grid node in the booth. I'm not sure what that
> >> >> >involves in terms of staff time, cost, etc. but I am trying to find
> >out.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Karen
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >At 12:11 PM 9/20/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >> >> >>Hey Karen, As we've been discussing, Dan maybe able to be present in
> >> >> >eSpirit
> >> >> >>via live video feed.  The folks at Intel are very excited at the
> >> prospect
> >> >> >of
> >> >> >>Dan's being able to participate.  Understanding that Dan has jury
> >duty
> >> >> >>during the eXCHANGE days (10/11 and 10/12), is either one of those
> >days
> >> >> >>preferable to Dan?  My understanding is that that Dan calls in the
> >> night
> >> >> >>before to find out if he has to report on a given day.  Thanks.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Robert Fogel
> >> >> >>253.371.7075
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >---------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >Karen Green
> >> >> >Assistant Director for Communications
> >> >> >National Center for Supercomputing Applications
> >> >> >605 E. Springfield Ave.
> >> >> >Champaign, IL 61820
> >> >> >kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
> >> >> >ph: 217-265-0748, fax: 217-244-7396
> >> >> >http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/
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> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>---------------------------------------------------
> >> >>Karen Green
> >> >>Assistant Director for Communications
> >> >>National Center for Supercomputing Applications
> >> >>605 E. Springfield Ave.
> >> >>Champaign, IL 61820
> >> >>kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
> >> >>ph: 217-265-0748, fax: 217-244-7396
> >> >>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/
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> >> >
> >> ---------------------------------------------------
> >> Karen Green
> >> Assistant Director for Communications
> >> National Center for Supercomputing Applications
> >> 605 E. Springfield Ave.
> >> Champaign, IL 61820
> >> kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
> >> ph: 217-265-0748, fax: 217-244-7396
> >> http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/
> >> ----------------------------------------------------
> >
> >--
> >Jon Dugan             |  Senior Network Engineer, NCSA Network Development
> >jdugan at ncsa.uiuc.edu  |  57C CAB, 605 E Springfield, Champaign, IL 61820
> >217/244-7715          |  http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/people/jdugan
> >
> >
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>Karen Green
>Assistant Director for Communications
>National Center for Supercomputing Applications
>605 E. Springfield Ave.
>Champaign, IL 61820
>kareng at ncsa.uiuc.edu
>ph: 217-265-0748, fax: 217-244-7396
>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/
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