RCE (Regional Center of Excellence) and the Grid
Rick Stevens
stevens at mcs.anl.gov
Wed Oct 2 15:33:14 CDT 2002
Fred, Olaf,
I'm meeting with Jill Tarter after her Director's colloquium from 3-4 and
then could meet after that. We should make sure
that Olaf gets a chance to see the AG and Active mural etc. I also believe
Ian will be around tomorrow afternoon as
well.
At 03:25 PM 10/2/2002 -0500, Fred Stafford wrote:
>Rick-- I was just preparing a response to your e-mail when Olaf's e-mail
>arrived. I agree that it is a great idea.
>
>When is a good time for you to meet? Olaf and I have a 3:30 meeting at
>ANL tomorrow. Don't know about Olaf, but I could be there at 3 or stay as
>long as needed after (the probable ending time for that meeting) 4:30.
>
>
>As you know I am a great fan of the Access Grid (AG) not just as a means
>of holding tele-lectures and workshops, but as a means of
>teleconferencing. Further, one could envisage eventually pursuing Lance
>Becker's idea of linking Emergency Rooms by the AG. The thought is that
>one means of being prepared for a bioterrorist attack would be to have
>means for ER physicians to communicate easily with one another.
We have a project with NCSA/UIUC to develop a AG enabled collaborative
bioinformatics infrastructure (in involved Natalia's tools and tools from
ORNL as well). We might
be able to leverage some of that work as well.
--Rick
>If Olaf hasn't seen the AG, Active Mural, etc, .......
>
>
>Fred.
>
>---start forwarded material--
>X-Sender: stevens at localhost
>Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 14:06:41 -0500
>To: Fred Stafford <f-stafford at uchicago.edu>,
> "Rick L. Stevens" <stevens at mcs.anl.gov>
>From: Rick Stevens <stevens at mcs.anl.gov>
>Subject: Re: RCE (Regional Center of Excellence) and the Grid
>Cc: "Olaf Schneewind, M.D., Ph.D." <oschnee at delphi.bsd.uchicago.edu>
>Fred, Olaf:
>
>Ian and I have been discussing this. We believe that what the country
>needs as part of the RCEs is a two layered infrastructure.
>The first layer is a set of shared data and collaboration services that
>integrate all the sites within each RCE to create a virtual Center. The
>second layer is to connect the RCEs together to provide a integrated
>resource for the country. For both of these layers we think that Access
>Grid and Data and Computing grids based on Globus are reasonable ways to
>proceed. They are the standards for other high-end communty Grids
>(Physics, Earth Science, Fusion research, Earthquake Engineering, etc.) I
>suppose we could approach NIH directly with the idea of integrating the
>RCEs together. I know the Michigan folks well and they would be very
>helpful in the collaborative environment part of the proposal, but they
>are not particularly involved in data or computing grids.
>
> It would be good sometime if we might think about if the AG could help
> raise the competitive profile of the proposed RCE. We have technology to
> bridge to H.323 for the smaller sites as well as lower cost versions of
> the Access Grid.
>
>Let me know if you want to discuss it further.
>
>Cheers,
>
>--Rick
>
>At 10:58 AM 9/30/2002 -0500, Fred Stafford wrote:
>>Rick-- Want to get started in thinking about the RCE and the Grid. the
>>NU C-FAR (Center for Aids Research) already includes the universtiy of
>>michigan and its "Collaboratory for Research on electronic
>>Work" http://www.crew.umich.edu./ [CREW with Thomas Finholt and
>>Stephanie Teasley]. It is a given that they will set up the electronic
>>communications for this RCE. NU and the other C-FAR participants already
>>do H.323 conferencing.
>>
>>Nonetheless, my guess is that the Grid would carry this capacity one step
>>further. Ditto for the Access Grid and inSORS. The AG would greatly
>>facilitate collaboration beyond what is possible with H.323
>>teleconferincing. But, since there will be many sites in the RCE, some
>>of them with just a few people, it should be possible for those smaller
>>sites to have low-cost access as well as access to H.323 which is already
>>used by UMich..
>>
>>So, my question is, of course, what would be the expected
>>benefits/increased capacity, and how many $$$ for equipment/installation
>>and how many $$$ per year? There are lots of demands on the money for
>>clinical stuff so the difficulty of getting funding would increase
>>exponentially with the cost.
>>
>>who should be our working contact with MCS?
>>
>>
>>Fred
>>--
>>Fred E. Stafford
>> 773-702-9120
>> 773-834-9199 (Fax)
>>f-stafford at uchicago.edu
>______________________________________________________________________________
>Rick
>Stevens http://www.mcs.anl.gov/~stevens
>Math & Computer Science Div Dept of Computer Science
>Argonne National Laboratory The University of Chicago
>Argonne, IL 60439, U.S.A. Chicago, IL 60637, U.S.A.
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>
>
>--
>
>Fred E. Stafford
> 773-702-9120
> 773-834-9199 (Fax)
>f-stafford at uchicago.edu
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