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Fred, Olaf,<br><br>
I'm meeting with Jill Tarter after her Director's colloquium from 3-4 and
then could meet after that. We should make sure<br>
that Olaf gets a chance to see the AG and Active mural etc. I also
believe Ian will be around tomorrow afternoon as<br>
well.<br><br>
<br>
At 03:25 PM 10/2/2002 -0500, Fred Stafford wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Rick-- I was just preparing a
response to your e-mail when Olaf's e-mail arrived. I agree that it
is a great idea.<br><br>
When is a good time for you to meet? Olaf and I have a 3:30 meeting
at ANL tomorrow. Don't know about Olaf, but I could be there at 3 or stay
as long as needed after (the probable ending time for that meeting)
4:30.<br><br>
<br>
As you know I am a great fan of the Access Grid (AG) not just as a means
of holding tele-lectures and workshops, but as a means of
teleconferencing. Further, one could envisage eventually
pursuing Lance Becker's idea of linking Emergency Rooms by the AG.
The thought is that one means of being prepared for a bioterrorist attack
would be to have means for ER physicians to communicate easily with
one another.</blockquote><br><br>
We have a project with NCSA/UIUC to develop a AG enabled collaborative
bioinformatics infrastructure (in involved Natalia's tools and tools from
ORNL as well). We might<br>
be able to leverage some of that work as well.<br><br>
--Rick<br><br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>If Olaf hasn't seen the AG, Active
Mural, etc, .......<br><br>
<br>
Fred.<br><br>
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 14:06:41 -0500<br>
To: Fred Stafford <f-stafford@uchicago.edu>,<br>
"Rick L. Stevens"
<stevens@mcs.anl.gov><br>
From: Rick Stevens <stevens@mcs.anl.gov><br>
Subject: Re: RCE (Regional Center of Excellence) and the Grid<br>
Cc: "Olaf Schneewind, M.D., Ph.D."
<oschnee@delphi.bsd.uchicago.edu><br>
Fred, Olaf:<br><br>
Ian and I have been discussing this. We believe that what the
country needs as part of the RCEs is a two layered infrastructure.<br>
The first layer is a set of shared data and collaboration services that
integrate all the sites within each RCE to create a virtual Center.
The second layer is to connect the RCEs together to provide a integrated
resource for the country. For both of these layers we think that
Access Grid and Data and Computing grids based on Globus are reasonable
ways to proceed. They are the standards for other high-end communty
Grids (Physics, Earth Science, Fusion research, Earthquake Engineering,
etc.) I suppose we could approach NIH directly with the idea of
integrating the RCEs together. I know the Michigan folks well and
they would be very helpful in the collaborative environment part of the
proposal, but they are not particularly involved in data or computing
grids.<br><br>
It would be good sometime if we might think about if the AG could
help raise the competitive profile of the proposed RCE. We have
technology to bridge to H.323 for the smaller sites as well as lower cost
versions of the Access Grid.<br><br>
Let me know if you want to discuss it further.<br><br>
Cheers,<br><br>
--Rick<br><br>
At 10:58 AM 9/30/2002 -0500, Fred Stafford wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Rick-- Want to get started in
thinking about the RCE and the Grid. the NU C-FAR (Center for Aids
Research) already includes the universtiy of michigan and its
"Collaboratory for Research on electronic Work"
<a href="http://www.crew.umich.edu./%A0" eudora="autourl">http://www.crew.umich.edu./
</a> [CREW with Thomas Finholt and Stephanie Teasley]. It is a
given that they will set up the electronic communications for this
RCE. NU and the other C-FAR participants already do H.323
conferencing.<br><br>
Nonetheless, my guess is that the Grid would carry this capacity one step
further. Ditto for the Access Grid and inSORS. The AG would
greatly facilitate collaboration beyond what is possible with H.323
teleconferincing. But, since there will be many sites in the RCE,
some of them with just a few people, it should be possible for those
smaller sites to have low-cost access as well as access to H.323 which is
already used by UMich..<br><br>
So, my question is, of course, what would be the expected
benefits/increased capacity, and how many $$$ for equipment/installation
and how many $$$ per year? There are lots of demands on the money
for clinical stuff so the difficulty of getting funding would increase
exponentially with the cost.<br><br>
who should be our working contact with MCS?<br><br>
<br>
Fred<br>
--<br>
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